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To: Alberta's Child

“A cop is trained to keep shooting until the threat is completely disabled.”

That is exactly what I’m talking about. That kind of extreme training is wrong, a product of modern safety culture. Cops are well paid to protect citizens, and sometimes that involves risks on their part. But those risks cannot be mitigated in a way that makes everyone else less safe.


140 posted on 08/24/2020 7:42:26 AM PDT by pelican001
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To: pelican001

A good example being cops shooting a child (I mean a young child, not some 17 year old thug) with a toy gun. Sorry, never acceptable, under any circumstances.


145 posted on 08/24/2020 7:44:03 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: pelican001

Anyone teaching the Tueller drill needs to be removed from the force NOW.

If perp doesn’t have a REAL gun, in hand, and gets shot, riots will ensue; the police either have to adapt to this or find other jobs. This BS of Resisting Arrest being a capital offense is part of why our cities are burning down.


147 posted on 08/24/2020 7:46:31 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: pelican001
That kind of extreme training is wrong, a product of modern safety culture. Cops are well paid to protect citizens, and sometimes that involves risks on their part.

Your second statement here is flat-out wrong, and the "extreme training" is a product of that wrongheaded thinking.

Consider this message I've posted a number of times in recent months here on FR:

THE ROLE OF POLICE IN A FREE NATION

This idea that Americans have come to take for granted -- that we need police officers "to serve and protect" us -- has no place in a free nation. This country was built by people who were perfectly capable of PROTECTING THEMSELVES.

The purpose of "law enforcement" isn't to protect the citizens at large. It's to ensure that accused criminals are apprehended and protected so they can be subject to legitimate trials instead of hunted down and given "justice" by armed vigilantes.

We -- including conservatives -- have forgotten this fundamental aspect of the U.S. legal system over the years. As a result, we no longer think of the police as law enforcement officers and instead see them as nothing more than armed security guards doing a job that we are too lazy and irresponsible to do ourselves.

156 posted on 08/24/2020 9:17:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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