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Memorandum on Excluding Illegal Aliens From the Apportionment Base Following the 2020 Census
White House ^ | July 21, 2020

Posted on 08/06/2020 6:07:17 AM PDT by 11th_VA

Section 1. Background. ...

The President, by law, makes the final determination regarding the “whole number of persons in each State,” which determines the number of Representatives to be apportioned to each State, and transmits these determinations and accompanying census data to the Congress (2 U.S.C. 2a(a)). The Congress has provided that it is “the President’s personal transmittal of the report to Congress” that “settles the apportionment” of Representatives among the States, and the President’s discretion to settle the apportionment is more than “ceremonial or ministerial” and is essential “to the integrity of the process” (Franklin v. Massachusetts, 505 U.S. 788, 799, and 800 (1992)).

The Constitution does not specifically define which persons must be included in the apportionment base. Although the Constitution requires the “persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed,” to be enumerated in the census, that requirement has never been understood to include in the apportionment base every individual physically present within a State’s boundaries at the time of the census. Instead, the term “persons in each State” has been interpreted to mean that only the “inhabitants” of each State should be included. Determining which persons should be considered “inhabitants” for the purpose of apportionment requires the exercise of judgment. For example, aliens who are only temporarily in the United States, such as for business or tourism, and certain foreign diplomatic personnel are “persons” who have been excluded from the apportionment base in past censuses...

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: census; illegals; trump
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Best President ever !!!
1 posted on 08/06/2020 6:07:17 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

He’s GOT to be reelected. The fly in the ointment is if the Republicucks lose the Senate.


2 posted on 08/06/2020 6:09:22 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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The fly in the ointment is if the Republicucks lose the Senate.

Cocaine Mitch and Linda Graham are doing all they can towards that goal...

3 posted on 08/06/2020 6:11:09 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: 11th_VA

Makes sense to me. You don’t count tourists at the Grand Canyon in the AZ census. Why would you count people who are not here legally?


4 posted on 08/06/2020 6:12:14 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Yo-Yo

You are just absolutely full of it. You are depending on archaic Free Republic no longer accurate for your insulting untruth

You’d make a good CNN reporter


5 posted on 08/06/2020 6:12:48 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: 11th_VA

Illegals and their willing accomplices in the Media and the Dem Party will just lie anyway. But this is a start.


6 posted on 08/06/2020 6:22:07 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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” For example, aliens who are only temporarily in the United States, such as for business or tourism, and certain foreign diplomatic personnel”

They left out welfare.


7 posted on 08/06/2020 6:42:54 AM PDT by dljordan
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“But isn’t it reasonable for Mexicans and Central Americans to have * some * say in how U.S. federal funds are spent considering the impact they have on their people who frequently migrate?” /woke-off

I go to an urban up university where that statement would receive respectful consideration and improve essay scores. Fact.


8 posted on 08/06/2020 7:12:49 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever.)
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To: 11th_VA

“Determining which persons should be considered “inhabitants” for the purpose of apportionment requires the exercise of judgment”

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union....

Can it be any clearer?


9 posted on 08/06/2020 7:14:41 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: 11th_VA

The 2020 Census Form does not ask if a person is a citizen. How can they count only citizens if a citizenship question is not asked?


10 posted on 08/06/2020 7:17:49 AM PDT by Meatspace
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The 2020 Census Form does not ask if a person is a citizen. How can they count only citizens if a citizenship question is not asked?

From Census.gov:

Census Bureau, which conducts more than 100 surveys for the federal government, is continuing to ask about citizenship on other forms, which have sparked plenty of confusion around the country.

Unlike the census, these surveys collect responses from only a sample of households, and their results produce anonymized citizenship data that the government has relied on for years to, for example, protect the voting rights of racial minorities.

So I think they use data from other surveys for apportionment, then why not use that same data to determine the number of REAL CITIZENS for apportionment, is what they are saying.

11 posted on 08/06/2020 7:24:26 AM PDT by 11th_VA (May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
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To: 11th_VA

If that is accurate, how do you know if you get counted?


12 posted on 08/06/2020 7:44:02 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: 11th_VA

Is General Flynn the new Robert E. Lee? The military leader to lead the fight in CWII?


13 posted on 08/06/2020 7:58:10 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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A government elected by noncitizens is a government of noncitizens.

Citizens under a government of noncitizens are slaves to an occupying foreign government.

There is no way to maintain national sovereignty while allowing noncitizens to form and replace our government from within.

Allowing noncitizens into the census and election booth is nothing short of a treasonous invasion attacking us on the battle field of LAW, avoiding the military all together.


14 posted on 08/06/2020 8:37:23 AM PDT by jmclemore (Go Trump)
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Since illegal aliens are the Democrat party’s modern-day slaves, they should have pushed for a “3/5 compromise”. Now they get nothing!


15 posted on 08/11/2020 8:26:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 11th_VA

If there was no question on citizenship status on the census form then how do you use the census to make sure illegals aren’t represented?


16 posted on 08/11/2020 8:30:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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If there was no question on citizenship status on the census form then how do you use the census to make sure illegals aren’t represented?
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You know in ‘LIBSPEAK’ you can’t introduce logic or common sense.

The same pols that say it is virtually impossible for ‘certain folks’ to get an ID are the ones thinking that when they require an ID to get food stamps, welfare, get library card (I AM STRETCHING IT) etc but not to vote, that they are being ‘fair’.


17 posted on 08/11/2020 8:42:44 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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EXCLUSIVE: The Obama Treasury Department Spied on Flynn, Manafort, and the Trump Family, Says Whistleblower
The Ohio Star ^ | 18 May 2020 | Neil W. McCabe ? FR posted by Erik Latranyi

President Barack Obama’s Treasury Department regularly surveilled retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn’s financial records and transactions beginning in December 2015 and well into 2017, before, during and after when he served at the White House as President Donald Trump’s National Security Director, a former senior Treasury Department official, and veteran of the intelligence community, told the Star Newspapers.

“I started seeing things that were not correct, so I did my own little investigation, because I wanted to make sure what I was seeing was correct” she said. “You never want to draw attention to something if there is not anything there.”
The whistleblower said she only saw metadata, that is names and dates when the general’s financial records were accessed. “I never saw what they saw.”

By March 2016, the whistleblower said she and a colleague, who was detailed to Treasury from the intelligence community, became convinced that the surveillance of Flynn was not tied to legitimate criminal or national security concerns, but was straight-up political surveillance among other illegal activity occurring at Treasury.

“When I showed it to her, what she said, ‘Oh, sh%t!’ and I knew right then and there that I was right – this was some shady stuff,” the whistleblower said.’

“It wasn’t just him,” the whistleblower said. “They were targeting other U.S. citizens, as well.”

Only two names are listed in the whistleblower’s official paperwork, so the others must remain sealed, she said. The second name is Paul J. Manafort Jr., the one-time chairman of Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.

The other names include: Members of Congress, the most senior staffers on the 2016 Trump campaign and members of Trump’s family, she said.(Excerpt) Read more at theohiostar.com ...


The “Members of Congress” being spied upon by Obama could be a goldmine of info.

Betcha good money, Obama was spying on DEMOCRATS.

Was Obama checking to see if Democrats were holding out on his share of the graft?

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18 posted on 08/17/2020 5:52:35 PM PDT by Liz
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Let's not forget, as soon as he landed in DC, Obama placed his COS Rham Emanuel in charge of the US Treasury.....
and the Census. That musta left a huge paper trail. Donald better get ahold of that info ASAP.

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When they crawled out of the sewers of Chicago and descended on DC...
one of the first things the Obama cabal did was takeover the census......and the US Treasury

Controlling the Census: The Obama Administration’s Power Grab
Martha Zoller | humanevents.com / Thursday Feb 12, 2009 3:01 AM

"The American people deserve a non-partisan census in 2010, and we hope the committee will ensure that goal comes to fruition by holding an oversight hearing on the administration’s potential plans to reduce the future secretary of commerce’s authority over the agency," Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) in a letter to the House Energy and Commerce Committee

The preservation and expansion of the Democrat majority is the only reason the Obama Administration is exercising its power and taking over the Census. Last week, without much fanfare, The White House moved control of the Census from the Commerce Department to the Executive Branch. The Democrats want to use “sampling” to add to the counts in urban areas homeless people and minorities that they believe will be under counted. The Supreme Court shot down the idea of “sampling” in the last Census, but the Obama Administration is going to tee it up again and see if it flies.

In the last Census, congressional seats moved from states that were losing population in the North and Northeast, to states that were gaining population in the South, Southwest and Mountain regions of America. That is a loss of power from generally Democrat strongholds to more likely Republican areas. That population trend is expected to continue which means more seats out of Blue States into Red States.

That’s why before the ink was even dry on the announcement of Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) as Commerce Secretary, the Congressional Black Caucus and Latino groups were complaining that a Republican could not be in control of the census. Instead of supporting Gregg and letting the confirmation process vet this issue, the White House immediately caved and gave the power of oversight of the Census to the White House and indicated that Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel would be in charge.

Not only is this the wrong political move to make, it may also be unconstitutional. It is the duty of the Congress to take the Census every 10 years and through a law passed in Congress, it gives the power to execute the Census to the Commerce Department. If Congress has established — by law — that Commerce has the responsibility, the White House can’t override that law. If it does so, the action is illegal and unconstitutional to boot.

It would be helpful to know what Senator Gregg has to say about this but so far he hasn’t commented. Maybe he received a dead fish in the mail from Mr. Emanuel. Many suspect that he didn’t see this coming but it is seen by most as a slap in the face to the integrity of Senator Gregg and the Commerce Department. Controversy over this isn’t new and that’s why a letter was sent last year to the President signed by every Census Director since Nixon supporting a bill to make the Census Bureau an independent agency.

The directors believe they could be more effective if they could deal directly with Congress and there’s a Constitutional argument to back that up. New York Democrat, Carolyn Maloney is the bill’s chief sponsor — so this is a bipartisan issue. Many people, who won’t go on the record, are afraid of a Census process that is overseen by one of the most hyperpartisan people of our generation, Rahm Emanuel.

The Obama administration is quickly adopting the Chicago way of governing by fear. First the fear of economic collapse, which with the announcements and proclamations on a daily basis of doom and gloom seem to be riling the markets. Now they want to instill the fear that Republicans want to ignore minorities and the homeless in the Census count. To strip the Commerce Department of this responsibility just because a Republican is appointed to the position is a pretty sad state of affairs. But it’s only the beginning. This is not a “post-partisan” White House.

I’m a bit old school on the Census. I believe it should be a count and that’s it. The data derived from asking whether you have indoor plumbing or how many bedrooms you have is interesting, but not a part of the Census (and frankly none of the government’s business). The Census affects every aspect of how government asserts its power over us: the way our votes count — toward one congressman or another — results from the census. It provides the raw data by which government spending is allocated on everything from roads to schools. The Bureau of Labor Statistics also uses the Census to prepare the economic data that businesses rely on.

"The real issue is who directs the Census, the pros or the pols," says Bruce Chapman, who was director of the Census in the Reagan/Bush Era. "You would think an administration that’s thumping its chest about respecting science would show a little respect for scientists in the statistical field." It a tad ironic that the Obama administration is standing firm on the “fact” of global warming but wants a hyperpartisan such as White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel to oversee the Census. John Fund, in the Wall Street Journal, said, “The Obama administration is downplaying how closely the White House will oversee the Census Bureau. But Press Secretary Robert Gibbs insists there is "historical precedent" for the Census director to be "working closely with the White House." Fund is one of the foremost experts on election fraud and ultimately, manipulating the Census is a tool to be used to steal elections.

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And the Obamatons took control of the US Treasury....... Soon as they occupied the WH, Obama placed his COS---
Goldman Sachs Wall Streeter Rahm Emanuel---in control of the US Dept of the Treasury.....
ponder that...... Chicago Rham was Obama's COS AND controlled Treasury ....at the same time.

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THE SMOKING GUN---WSJ REPORT--On Jan 20, 2009 Timothy Geithner was appointed Obama's Secy of the Treasury. But within three weeks, the Obama White House tightened its grip on Treasury. Obama put his COS, Rahm Emanuel, in charge of Treasury---Rahm Emanuel's dual role was an unusual move. When he got to Treasury, WH COS Rahm Emanuel was so involved in the inner workings that the phrase "Rahm wants it" had become an unofficial mantra among subservient govt staffers, prostrate in obeisance, scurrying to accede to Rahm's wishes, according to Treasury government officials. Reported by WSJ / 05/31/09

More here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124113406528875137.html

19 posted on 08/17/2020 5:54:46 PM PDT by Liz
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Do you remember when Maxine Waters Said , on TV, “Obama has an extensive data base on EVERYBODY in the US.”?


20 posted on 08/17/2020 6:14:26 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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