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To: Karoo

Since you asked “what exactly are the masks supposed to do”..

Masks reduce spread of the virus by reducing excretions (spittle, coughs, sneezes, etc) and virus particles that you exhale - which are most often attached to “droplets” that masks can stop, as the droplets are considerably larger than the virus particle itself and larger than the ‘weave’ of most masks. Well made masks with good filters also help protect the wearer from getting exposed, especially to droplets. “Medical Grade” (eg: N95) masks reduce exposure significantly, whereas decent masks can reduce exposure a good (but less than N95 of course) amount.

I realize that’s all but sacrilegious heresy here on FR and many / most will (perhaps vehemently) disagree, but every country that has worn masks (Hong Kong, Czech Republic, China, ...) has reduced the spread of the virus significantly.

Masks are not an “assault on our freedom”, a “left wing plot for control” or a “training burka”. They are a commonsense, simple thing we can do to reduce spread of the virus. And if we reduce spread..we get our economy back quicker. Better economy, better chance Trump gets re-elected. Isn’t that what we all want?


23 posted on 08/05/2020 10:24:06 AM PDT by jstolzen
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To: jstolzen

Transcript of internal debate at the CDC:

Fauci: Hey, guess what? We did it! We finally forced them all to wear masks!

Redfield: You’re kidding?

Birx: No f**king way!

Adams: Even POTUS?

Fauci: Yes, even POTUS, he finally caved!

Birx: Cool! So Tony, what do we do now?

Fauci: First I think I’ll show up at a baseball game NOT wearing one, just so I can lord it over everybody how we are the ones who are really superior to them.

Redfield: That would be AWESOME! But once you’ve done that what are we ever going to do to top this?

Fauci: That’s easy....goggles! Face shields!

Adams: ooooooh....I like the way you think Tony!

Fauci: Twelve hours after I’m done giving my interview to
CNN the lawn and garden shelves at Home Depot are
gonna look like the toilet paper section at Target
in April.

Birx: If we can make them wear masks AND shields, why, we
can make them wear ANYTHING!

Fauci: Yes, indeed. Ankle bracelets, cowboy hats,
those silk disco shirts that went out of style in 1979, handcuffs lined with fur...

Adams: Ballgags? Please please PLEASE can we do ballgags?

Fauci: No, Jerome, no one would ever see them under the
masks.

Redfield: I know....let’s make them wear their underwear
on the OUTSIDE! I saw that one in a movie once.
It was hilarious!

Birx: I don’t know. Wearing my bra on the outside? The
Playtex Pretty Petite #304 clashes with most of my
scarves.

Fauci: All in favor.....


28 posted on 08/05/2020 10:26:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jstolzen
Well said 👍
29 posted on 08/05/2020 10:26:38 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: jstolzen

How’s Sweden doing?


30 posted on 08/05/2020 10:26:42 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: jstolzen

gravity still works, i am still free. masks are useless, no thank you.


39 posted on 08/05/2020 10:39:12 AM PDT by exnavy (american by birth and choice, I love this country!)
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To: jstolzen

masks are useless


45 posted on 08/05/2020 10:45:26 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: jstolzen

‘Masks reduce spread of the virus by reducing excretions (spittle, coughs, sneezes, etc)’

a common handkerchief (or the crook of one’s arm does the exact same thing...

‘Masks are not an “assault on our freedom”

what crap...being refused service in an essential marketplace for ‘improper’ usage of a needless piece of cloth is not an assault on my freedom exactly how...? the marketplace doing so is discriminating against me for a marginally existent reason...and the marketplace cites the government protocols as guidance, so governmental pressure dictates the discrimination...

‘And if we reduce spread..we get our economy back quicker.’

man, you really, really don’t get it, do you...? you’re as dumb as these college kids hectoring us to ‘wear your masks so we can have a football season...’ you think for one minute that wearing masks is going to magically get the governors to let their feet off our necks...? why do you think the goal of ‘flattening the curve’ morphed into ‘no cases whatsoever, anywhere, anytime...? Eh...? So we could get our normal lives back when the curve was in fact flattened...?

one last thing; since you’re such a fan of these filthy cloths, do you feel it your duty to rat on the miscreants you see ‘misusing’ them; like for wearing them under the nose, like I did at a store and had some old bitch rat me out...is that your game..?


59 posted on 08/05/2020 11:09:03 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: jstolzen

“Masks are not an ‘assault on our freedom’, a ‘left wing plot for control’ or a ‘training burka’.”

Masks are all of those things. Add “dehumanizing”, “useless”, “a placebo”, “unhealthy”.


70 posted on 08/05/2020 11:26:10 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If 100% of us contracted this Covid Virus only 99.997% would be left to tell our story.)
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To: jstolzen
Masks reduce spread of the virus by reducing excretions (spittle, coughs, sneezes, etc) and virus particles that you exhale - which are most often attached to “droplets” that masks can stop, as the droplets are considerably larger than the virus particle itself and larger than the ‘weave’ of most masks. Well made masks with good filters also help protect the wearer from getting exposed, especially to droplets. “Medical Grade” (eg: N95) masks reduce exposure significantly, whereas decent masks can reduce exposure a good (but less than N95 of course) amount.

When you make this assertion you must ultimately assume that every healthy person walking around is infected with the virus, or that there’s such a thing as “super-spreaders” which of course is absurd on its face. But for the sake of argument, let’s make that assumption. Since transmission and expression of a viral infection is proportionate to the amount of viral load a person carries, an asymptomatic carrier would have a low viral load. What happens to that viral load when you force that person to wear a mask and constantly exhale and re-inhale those viral droplets? It stands to reason that it would increase the viral load making that person more infectious and symptomatic. Invariably, at some point in time that person is going to remove that mask or touch their face while wearing the mask, thus making that individual highly infectious. Remember, hand hygiene is the #1 recommendation to reduce the spread of infection.

I realize that’s all but sacrilegious heresy here on FR and many / most will (perhaps vehemently) disagree, but every country that has worn masks (Hong Kong, Czech Republic, China, ...) has reduced the spread of the virus significantly.

Of the three countries you just mentioned, the only one on the list of top 30 countries with the highest rates of testing is China, with 62,814/million of population. The lowest rate of the top 30 is Egypt with 1,317/million. Hong Kong and Czech Republic do not even show up, which means they are testing <1300/million (most likely only symptomatic patients). The US is 3rd with 186,055/million. Bottom line, the more you test the more “cases” you get. How many positive flu results do you think there would be if we tested everyone, whether symptomatic or not, during cold/flu season? How many would be positive for other coronaviruses?

Also, many of these so-called “cases” are actually repeat testing on the same patient. I know this for a fact as I work in a hospital laboratory that processes these tests. We have patients who are transferred in from smaller hospitals or assisted care/nursing homes who have tested positive at those facilities and are retested when admitted to us in order to receive covid convalescent plasma which requires a confirmed positive at our facility. Each swab from a single patient is sent to the reference lab as a specimen, not as an individual case. So 3 positive Covid tests on the same patient are falsely counted as 3 “cases”.

Bottom line your assertion that mask-wearing countries have less infections doesn’t hold water and in no way is proof that masks are effective in preventing spread of the virus. Even if might be true are you prepared to wear the mask for the rest of your life? At some point in time we have got to move on with living and realize that as much as we’d like to believe it, we mortals are NOT in control.

91 posted on 08/05/2020 3:39:10 PM PDT by Shethink13
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