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To: poinq
"Vaccines are extremely dangerous."

No, they aren't. About 1 vaccine in 1 million can be reasonably linked to any harm whatsoever. That's the payout rate from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, which requires no medical evidence or proof whatsoever in order to pay out. All you have to do is make a reasonable argument linking a vaccine you received to some injury. And with that low bar, there's about 1 case of compensation paid per 1 million vaccines. Meanwhile, vaccines save hundreds of thousands of American lives every year and millions of lives around the world every year. Vaccines wiped out smallpox and pretty much erased measles, mumps, pertussis, polio, and many other terrible disease from America.

"You are telling your body to kill any cell with a DNA or RNA snip-it sequence."

No, you aren't. That isn't how the human immune system works. Your body doesn't attack DNA or RNA. It attacks foreign proteins and other foreign objects. Vaccines work by providing the body with the glycoproteins (antigens) of a particular pathogen so T-cell and B-cell immunity is activated.

"If that sequence snip-it is shared in any part by the DNA of your own cells, your body will start attacking those cells."

No, that is not how it works. DNA is not a target. There is no part of the human immune system that acts on DNA. There is no part of the human immune system that attacks cells based on DNA.

"You are basically hiring killers and giving them a description of the cells to kill. If innocent cells have the same description, they will be killed."

If any of your body's cells were to have antigens from a a pathogen in them, they absolutely should be killed. That means they're infected. No cells in your body will ever have the glycoproteins of SARS-CoV-2 on them. None. If somehow that were to ever happen, there is something so horribly wrong with that cell that it should be immediately destroyed. And it will be, naturally, by your body. Because your body would immediately recognize that glycoprotein as foreign and NK T-cells would immediately attack and kill the cell carrying them. That would happen with or without a vaccine.

"Our medical community does not like to remind people that vaccines kill and maim people all the time, today. Even current vaccines under wide use."

Except they don't. Significant reactions to vaccines resulting in any lasting effects are exceedingly rare. About 1 payout per 1 million vaccines given with zero medical proof required.

"New vaccines often kill more than they save at first."

No, they don't. They never do that. Such a vaccine would never make it to phase 1 clinical testing. It would be stopped in animal testing. If somehow it did make it to clinical phase 1 testing, it would stop there. It would never be approved for phase 2, let alone phase 3, let alone manufactured, let alone provided to the general public.

Why spread misinformation and fear? The media does more than enough fearmongering on its own. It doesn't need help.

34 posted on 08/03/2020 3:51:38 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

We won’t comply. What will you and your side do about it?


49 posted on 08/03/2020 4:27:40 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

You just spread a lot of falsehoods. The smallpox vaccine for example killed more kids than the disease did. That’s just the start. At the end of the day though, nothing good comes from using aborted babies in the development of these vaccines. If I knew nothing else, that would be enough.


55 posted on 08/03/2020 4:35:19 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Vaccines generally work only when the disease is ease to detect, and is not extremely infectious. Small pox was very easy to detect. And it was deadly. So it could be eradicated with use of the vaccine and water treatment as well. This took half a century and a world wide effort. That same effort has not yet wiped out Polio, although that one is close. The other diseases you mention show up in the US every year. We have cases of measles every year in the US. In 2019 we had over a thousand cases reported.

In other countries like China, there are huge groups of children who become very ill and even die after taking vaccines. The US drug makers test vaccines over a very long period before they are allowed to widely distribute the vaccine. And even when a vaccine is approved it is often associated with adverse reactions. HPV has caused more cases of ASIA as it supposedly reduced cases of cervical cancer. With 13 thousand cases of cervical cancer per year, we are causing 5000 cases of ASIA while reducing cervical cancer by 1000 cases. Not worth it.

Outside of a very few success stories, vaccines never equal eradication. They simply reduce a disease. In some cases they work for a year or two. In other cases they can provide immunity for decades. But with a virus like covid, vaccines can never hope to eradicate the virus from the world or even the USA. It will be here for a century at least.


70 posted on 08/03/2020 5:25:31 AM PDT by poinq
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