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Tech Workers Were Already Hard To Find. The H-1B Visa Suspension Just Made Recruiting Them Even Harder.
Forbes ^ | Jun 26, 2020 | Gad Levanon

Posted on 06/26/2020 1:41:33 PM PDT by NobleFree

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To: Freedom56v2

Logic? We don’t need no stinkin’ logic!


141 posted on 06/26/2020 4:27:43 PM PDT by Ratman0823 (Today's news is all about the Leftist's "narrative". If it doesn't fit, the sheeple don't see it.)
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To: SloppyDrummer

They’ll promise one month, then when the deadline is a week awaytheyre not quite ready and need another two months, then they’ll give you a crap code that doesn’t meet requirements and say it’s your fault for not being clear in the business requirements and they need another 3 months to rewrite it when those 3 months are up they’ll give you a product that fails beta testing, but parts of it might barely work, they then need another 3 months to ensure the business requirements are understandable etc. worked on a 50 million dolllar project while with a Canadian bank that was promised in 6 months. 3 1/2 years later and 150 million the Indian firm finally had a workable system. The guys who saved 20 million and a year on the original project got a big bonus and promotion


142 posted on 06/26/2020 4:30:26 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Chelsea Dagger)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!


143 posted on 06/26/2020 4:30:48 PM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: NobleFree

Anyone can code, especially coal miners. Just ask Joe Biden!


144 posted on 06/26/2020 4:31:45 PM PDT by FR33DOM4ME
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To: NobleFree
which includes jobs such as software developers and computer systems analysts

Maybe I could come out of retirement, if they made it worth my while.

145 posted on 06/26/2020 4:32:36 PM PDT by McGruff (A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes)
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To: NobleFree

Bitch, bitch, bitch. Whatever happened to “We’re all in this together.”?


146 posted on 06/26/2020 4:37:35 PM PDT by jimfree (My19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: lepton

At this point, they just need coders. A person who has experience in 3 languages is infinitely better than someone who is only good in 1 language. They are probably only good in 1 language because they refuse to learn another. I’ve used 15 in my career. Because God is merciful, RPG was not one of them.


147 posted on 06/26/2020 4:46:11 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: NobleFree

BS.

My daughter has been looking for a tech job for months and is just about begging for work.

Hire her first, and then if there’s no one else, go abroad.

And yes, she does know how to dress, how to act, and to show up on time, or at all, on a daily basis for the job.


148 posted on 06/26/2020 4:50:30 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: rrrod

“we have plenty of college grads available. Their problem is they have work ethis. Zero.”

We also have less recent grads with fine wirk ethics who have been replaced by diploma-mill fictional-resume H-1Bs because they’re cheaper.


149 posted on 06/26/2020 4:53:19 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

No argument....sorry about the typos.


150 posted on 06/26/2020 4:55:36 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: AppyPappy

“If you can code in one language, you can do it in any language.”

THIS!


151 posted on 06/26/2020 5:00:41 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Boo Hoo


152 posted on 06/26/2020 5:00:42 PM PDT by Fledermaus (ONLY A MORON THINKS 6 FEET IS A MAGIC NUMBER!)
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To: NobleFree

Gad,

If you believe that tech workers are that hard to find, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Because of the kungflu it’s 25% off !


153 posted on 06/26/2020 5:01:29 PM PDT by khelus
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To: DesertRhino

It has happened to WAY too many Americans. H1B needs to happen under the old rules where you had to prove you could not find a qualified American.


That was one of the easiest rules that was worked around. Recruiters would interview three Americans and then say we couldn’t find an American to meet the specifications of the job. Therefore we need an H1B visa worker who has the qualifications. Or they would give a list of technologies and languages needed for the job and if that specific language or tech was not on the resume they would say “not qualified”. This was even when there was a more advanced tech that encompassed the lower or more basic tech. It was like you had to put down that you knew “spelling” even though you could write “sentences”. You think that is an oversimplified example, it is not. If it wasn’t on the resume it got tossed.

So if someone said they knew how to use SQL Developer and could write PL/SQL but never put down SQL by itself the resume got tossed. I know this because I went through this very issue with recruiters who were checking off lists and had no idea of the tech. Then you added in the computerized bots that read resumes and discarded resumes the same way.

So yeah, proving Americans were qualified was so easy to disqualify them without a second glance.


154 posted on 06/26/2020 5:10:13 PM PDT by zaxtres
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To: NobleFree

They are not hard to find ... if you recognise that many of the skills required are NOT taught in colleges, that not every job requires a degree (certifiations work in many cases) and that some skill sets, like networking, voice, and security) are very tough specilizations. A person who has spent 4 years learning to build web pages CANNOT be a drop in replacement for someone who knows networking or mainframes.

I blame much of this “lack of workers” on HR who has very little understanding of the tech skills and writes job descriptions so poorly, that anyone can qualify.


155 posted on 06/26/2020 5:10:34 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - Dad's wisdom)
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To: DesertRhino
If you fire an American to hire an H1B, you are a traitor. It has happened to WAY too many Americans. H1B needs to happen under the old rules where you had to prove you could not find a qualified American.

Unemployment is now in the double digits. Any employer who claims that he needs to foreign workers because there are no available Americans to do the job is lying through his teeth.

That's not just true of H1B tech jobs, it's equally true of most other sectors of the economy.

156 posted on 06/26/2020 5:36:50 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Still Thinking

It isn’t just the salary that is an issue (some aren’t much lower than American salaries), but the number of work hours you can squeeze from Asian coolies. A lot of this is about rolling back the improvements in the workplace over the last century.


157 posted on 06/26/2020 6:09:51 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
It isn’t just the salary that is an issue (some aren’t much lower than American salaries), but the number of work hours you can squeeze from Asian coolies. A lot of this is about rolling back the improvements in the workplace over the last century

The same thing applies to migrant agricultural and construction workers from Mexico and Central America. Those who are here illegally of course get paid below minimum wage under the table, but the legal guest workers are paid about the same as Americans in many cases. However, they are willing to work longer hours under much worse conditions (sanitation and safety in Mexico and Central America aren't on par with US standards).

"Work Americans won't do" has become a self-fulfilling prophecy, because work conditions were created to fit the standards of Third World coolie labor.

158 posted on 06/26/2020 6:17:09 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

That’s right.

A friend who worked as a consultant in tech described how the Indian employees were forced to work weekends and such; the American consultants didn’t because their firms billed by the hour. When an Indian was finally emancipated (his period of sponsorship/indentured servitude was over), he’d just be replaced by another one.


159 posted on 06/26/2020 6:21:40 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ExSES
Gee..., they might have to employ US CITIZENS??? The Horror!!!

Yeah, not only that they'll have to pay something other than exploiting-H1B-Visa-wages too!

HIRE AMERICANS!!

160 posted on 06/26/2020 6:22:50 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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