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Tech Workers Were Already Hard To Find. The H-1B Visa Suspension Just Made Recruiting Them Even Harder.
Forbes ^ | Jun 26, 2020 | Gad Levanon

Posted on 06/26/2020 1:41:33 PM PDT by NobleFree

In June, the US government suspended H-1B and other work visas for the rest of 2020. Hundreds of thousands of foreigners will no longer be able to attain work in the US as a result.

This halt will deal a one-two punch to employers of computer-related occupations, which includes jobs such as software developers and computer systems analysts. First, people in this field receive the overwhelming majority of H-1B visas. Out of the nearly 400,000 H-1B petitions approved in fiscal year 2019, about two-thirds were in that line of work. Most went to software developers.

Second, computer-related workers are the one group for which the labor market will soon become tight again. When that happens, new foreign workers may be sorely missed. […]

Before Covid-19, the unemployment rate for these workers was the lowest in recorded history. In the 10 years prior to the pandemic, the number of computer-related workers soared by 62%, while the number in all other fields grew by just 13%.

And since February, when the pandemic started impacting the US economy, the rise in the unemployment rate for computer and mathematical occupations was smaller than for other occupation groups (see charts 1 and 2). While the unemployment rate for all workers and for the management and professional group reached the highest rates in recorded history, the increase for computer and mathematical workers was more modest, though still significant. […]

Beyond the short-term recruiting impact, reducing the number of foreign workers could have major implications on US innovation. A recent article concludes that immigrants are responsible for 30% of aggregate US innovation since 1976, partly due to their own innovation, but mostly due to the positive impact they are having on US natives’ innovation. Immigration grows the pie.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corporatewelfare; h1b; hireamerican; immigration
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To: NobleFree

Good ones, yeah, are always expensive—and probably just got moreso. But whining Freepers are still available relatively cheap!

Okay, I kid. Mostly.


101 posted on 06/26/2020 3:01:29 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Dr. Sivana
for what we feel like paying them

The company I work for was one of the first in India some 20+ years ago. Back then it was 10 cents on the dollar. But then the Indians got clever with their bouncing from one company to another and creating fake certificates. From the amount of re-work we have to do in the states it never paid for itself.

Now that Indians cost about 50 cents on the dollar, we have moved to the Philippines were they are about 20 cents to the dollar.

The only benefit I see is that their accent is understandable.

102 posted on 06/26/2020 3:06:54 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: dangus
30 years’ experience in a programming language that’s only been around for 12 years.

You've seen that too?

103 posted on 06/26/2020 3:08:17 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Ratman0823
we also did something seemingly unheard-of now, testing our code!

Isn't that what production is for? After all, Agile doesn't allow for testing or documentation. Grrr.

104 posted on 06/26/2020 3:11:40 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: NobleFree

Well, if they’d quit looking under $30/hr they’d find 10s of thousands.

And they speak perfect American.


105 posted on 06/26/2020 3:14:25 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: jeffc

“How many U.S. citizens graduate from college each year with a degree in software engineering or computer science? “

That’s a bullshit requirement and threshold.

ALL of the best tech workers I’ve worked with, and I have worked with the best in the world, had no degree whatsoever. And many didn’t have a HS diploma.

But in India you can read a tech manual and buy a degree for $5k.


106 posted on 06/26/2020 3:18:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ExSES

And they may have to increase salaries!


107 posted on 06/26/2020 3:22:03 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama!)
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To: NobleFree
Cheap Tech Workers Were Already Hard To Find - no doubt
108 posted on 06/26/2020 3:22:08 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: DiogenesLamp
Computer crap is overblown. I don't see anything significant in the pipeline. Just more ways idiots can exchange stupid cat pictures with each other at increasingly higher speeds.

If we halted everything at present technology, it wouldn't impose much of a burden on anyone.

If we halted action movies and boy-band music, it wouldn't impose much of a burden on anyone. It's a blessing that we have disposable income to spend on frivolities.

111 posted on 06/26/2020 3:25:44 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Mariner
"That’s a bullshit requirement and threshold."

I agree. My son (18) and his friends have HS diplomas and these kids can program better than I can (but I am retired and don't do much anymore...)...

112 posted on 06/26/2020 3:27:20 PM PDT by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: malach
This article just proves that most economists know nothing about the labor market or the reality of work.

Or can be bribed to know nothing.

113 posted on 06/26/2020 3:29:43 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

I know plenty of folks who were in the tech industry, doing just fine at their jobs, and when their position was cut they never found another one. A few got back into tech jobs by getting a job in other areas of the company and hopping back.

It is an open secret that there are a lot of Indian racists in the tech industry - such that once many organizations reach more than about 40% Indian, you never see another American hired again, and the ‘anti-discrimination’ rules don’t work to stop that.


114 posted on 06/26/2020 3:30:32 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

BS. Anyone who actually works in the trenches in a tech field knows this is a lie.


And not even one of those gray-area partial truths.


115 posted on 06/26/2020 3:32:01 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: DesertRhino

H1B needs to happen under the old rules where you had to prove you could not find a qualified American.


I think there is a place for the H1B program, but that said, it should include what you say above, and further there should be a fee or a tariff attached.

You can bring someone in, but their wages under the program have a 20% tax, and you must pay them 20% above the median for the position.


116 posted on 06/26/2020 3:35:17 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: ExSES

And pay employer taxes for hiring your sons, daughters and neighbors. Our own government dodges taxes this way as an example for the coporate cronies.


117 posted on 06/26/2020 3:35:29 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: NobleFree

I have read that FORBES is owned by the Chinese.

The Chinese want more of their spys working for American companies so they can steal intellectual information.


118 posted on 06/26/2020 3:40:25 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: WHBates

Oh, they absolutely do that. They KNOW the Indians will submit fake resumes that have every single requirement and hire them anyway. Total fraud. I suspect that most of the diplomas are fake as well.


119 posted on 06/26/2020 3:40:42 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: lepton

They will fudge median salary numbers and find loopholes. How about a 200,000 fee upfront per h1-b? That would do the trick.


120 posted on 06/26/2020 3:42:12 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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