Posted on 06/26/2020 8:23:28 AM PDT by null and void
Worldometer did not report the number in their ‘new cases’ column-—but they did add it to New Jersey’s ‘total death’ column.
Yes, but yesterday they included it for the day as “unassigned”. But now that whole chart is gone for NJ, and their graph of daily deaths for every single day does not reflect it.
The only other way to gain immunity is exposure to the original. We have no vaccine for this yet, and even if we did a proportion of the people who receive it will become ill.
If my presumption is correct an increasing number of "cases" simply means nature is doing her usual part. Cases go up and the death rate goes down as the truly vulnerable are stricken off the list. Not the way Disney might write the plot, but nature isn't a cartoon.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Iw7J7Nl1v3P1vFe3JAyxY3W9LN4xICr/view?usp=sharing
Link above is to CEO of UPMC here in Pennsylvania. Comments are from a Sate Senate GOP discussion on COVID and Economy. In His view the virus seems to be weakening.
I can see your point. I’m taking all the precautions called for by our state and locality and individual businesses, but I’m not “concerned.”
Well, I guess I don't know how these things are being defined.
Let's say I seemed to have a cold or the flu or something last February. No big deal. I have a hernia operation scheduled for June. I show up at the hospital and they test me. Hey! I have antibodies! Turns out I had COVID-19 back in February! Isn't that something?
Does that mean I am not allowed to ever have a hernia operation? Hospitals will just turn me away for anything less than emergency surgery?
They’re not testing for having HAD CV, they’re testing for ACTIVE cases of CV.
I guarantee if you show up at the hospital for elective surgery and test positive for flu with a swab you are NOT going to be getting surgery that day. They swabbed my dad every time he went in for surgery for his back. Ditto my MIL.
Have no idea if this is national policy.
But I guarantee you if you test positive for an ACTIVE case of CV you won’t be getting surgery until you’re done with that. They don’t want to unnecessarily expose the surgery team or anyone who cares for you. OR risk your being PREsymptomatic with a symptomatic case and have clotting complications, kidney complications or COPD complications.
I believe there is disagreement on that. I think the number of cases may be driven, in part, by people who are found to have HAD CV.
Whether someone is emitted for surgery or not is actually a separate matter. My interest is in the bookkeeping and how they count the number of "new cases" and I worry that they are "finding" cases which are actually Old News.
Houston had a 60,000 strong gathering for Floyd about 10 days ago. Mayor of Houston was adamant that that gathering is not responsible for the uptick in cases.
Now businesses have to close early or altogether.
Guess what....Houston’s indigent hospitals/ICUs are what is overwhelmed, due to the d@mned protests.
Texas Children’s PEDIATRIC Hospital is taking in overflow from these indigent hospitals.
....The safety net hospital system, which treats many of the roughly 1 million uninsured or underinsured residents in Harris County, was treating high volumes of patients prior to the recent spike in cases, said Harris Health President and CEO Dr. Esmaeil Porsa. Now, Harris Health is taking steps to ensure its hospitals can sustainably weather the surge in hospitalizations.
“Our ICUs are already overwhelmed, and that’s the reason why we are going through our next level of surge planning,” Porsa told the Houston Business Journal.
Harris Health has 94 ICU beds between Ben Taub and LBJ, and the hospital system is working to convert some of its 395 adult medical/surgical beds into ICU beds to handle the surge. But Harris Health needs additional ICU nurses to staff those beds, Porsa said. Harris Health has pulled employees from other non-acute areas to address shortages, but staffing is a concern, he said.
“If somehow, magically, there’s a group of 10 or 20 ICU nurses that I can have, then I can transform more of my beds into ICUs,” Porsa said.
Harris Health has also been transferring patients to other Houston-area hospitals to free up capacity. In a June 25 virtual news conference, Texas Children’s Hospital President and CEO Mark Wallace said that his hospital had taken transferred patients from Ben Taub and LBJ. Earlier this week, Harris Health transferred around 60 patients to larger hospital systems within 48 hours, Porsa said....
(HBJ link/subscription only.)
Have they changed anything about how and whom they are testing?
Are they testing people without symptoms? If so, why?
Could you have had the disease and test positive? Such as a blood test for antibodies?
Do they realize that with higher case numbers and a stagnant death count the deadliness factor is reduced?
I don’t trust these people.
‘I don’t see how being either concerned or panicked would help anyone, so I’m not.’
well, okay; thanks for checking in...
‘What is a “case”?’
a ‘case’ is something that allows a Pub governor to act like a dem tyrant and still get to maintain credibility on forums like this one..
Stay inside for the rest of your life. Obey the government without question.
Believe hysterical lies. Never remove your mask. Never question the bullshit being fed to you.
I will live in mask free freedom.
You have neither the authority or right to tell others how to live.
Just make sure you never exhale; your selfishness might kill my sister.
How many are actually very sick, is the question. I read that in TX and very likely other states, people are being tested several times, so each test is counted. And I read this from Melian yesterday:
People are starting to reschedule non-emergency medical procedures. The doctors/ hospitals are demanding patients get tested within a week prior to the procedure. This may account for some of the increase in cases.
More testing... More positive cases found.
Supposedly in Tuscan Arizona they only have 10 beds left. Who knows if that is true.
All kinds of other deaths are packed into CCP virus deaths. When they can’t stuff any more sick people into nursing homes, then any death can be counted as CCP virus.
No disagreement on that.
They’re testing for currently active cases when you go in for an elective procedure.
No one who tests positive for an active case will be getting surgery unless it’s an emergency.
There is a significant amount of morbidity associated with symptomatic cases of this virus. Kidney damage, clotting irregularities, heart damage. Even in the youngsters. No hospital wants to get sued for giving you an UNnecessary procedure while you’re infected.
They also don’t want to have to try to contain this virus in a non CV unit. Nosocomial infections are notoriously difficult to stop in a hospital under ideal conditions. They don’t want to add another one.
Some states (the official state count, not how the hospital handles currently active cases) were mixing positives and antibody positives to lower the ‘positivity’ percent of total tests so it looked like there was less virus in the general population because MOST antibody tests are still negative. I think they’ve stopped that now however. Current estimates of antibody positives in the US are around 6%. MOST of those are in the tri state area of NYC/NJ/CT and surrounds.
I always like how they justify controlling our freedom because we are in a “pandemic”. Well, they need to educate themselves on the definition of the word. We’ve been “in a pandemic” for millennia.
20% on Wednesday and 10% Thursday in Florida.
I suspect if they were at North Dakota’s levels they would not be closing down again.
Less dead.
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