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Why Derek Chauvin May Get Off His Murder Charge
Medium.com ^ | 11 June 2020 | Gavrilo David

Posted on 06/23/2020 3:11:15 PM PDT by Jewbacca

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To: antidemoncrat

Yes, you are wrong.

If the cop merely held the man’s hand and sang a lullaby, the man still would have died.

The cop having his knee on the man’s neck did not cause his death. He did not die of asphyxiation. He died of ExDS.

https://www.policeone.com/police-training/articles/8-facts-about-excited-delirium-syndrome-exds-nutDY9i2C1ATmeV5/


61 posted on 06/24/2020 12:56:51 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

If I ever walk by and see a cop with a knee on your neck and he remains like that until you die, I’ll make sure to tell the jury that you probably would have died anyway.


62 posted on 06/24/2020 1:35:11 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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To: Samurai_Jack
As they always -- always! -- do, the Left overreaches ... as with the hasty over-charge for the dual purposes of "virtue-signalling" and "calming [temporarily] the savage beasts."

And, as always, the Democrat/Left will be "shocked I tell you!" how their overreach punishes them severely.

63 posted on 06/24/2020 1:39:21 PM PDT by glennaro (Prager: "Until it's safe" means "Never"!)
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To: antidemoncrat
If I ever walk by and see a cop with a knee on your neck and he remains like that until you die, I’ll make sure to tell the jury that you probably would have died anyway.

I’m amazed by the number of Chauvin apologists who don’t seem to have any problem with what he did. This case is nothing like the way police responded to Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta.

64 posted on 06/24/2020 1:48:41 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: windsorknot

” number of Chauvin apologists who don’t seem to have any problem with what he did.”

Having a problem with what the officer did is not relevant to the question of “can it be proved that the officer caused the death?”

The answer to that question is “no”.


65 posted on 06/24/2020 3:00:23 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: glennaro

“the Left overreaches “

What i’m (apparently unsuccessfully) suggesting is that the democrats (and the left but i repeat myself) are not over reaching at all. They are Over Charging with the expected result that the officer will not be convicted. The expected result is violence in the streets by their allies in BLM and Antifa.

The coming event is Planned and Orchestrated.
Watch for it to happen.


66 posted on 06/24/2020 3:09:22 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (Democrats are not the enemy, Republicans are not your friends. We're on our own folks!)
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To: Jewbacca
Chauvin will pay the price for his reckless stupidity whether or not he was directly responsible for Floyd’s death.
67 posted on 06/24/2020 3:20:56 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Samurai_Jack

Got it. BTTT


68 posted on 06/24/2020 3:25:07 PM PDT by glennaro (Prager: "Until it's safe" means "Never"!)
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To: windsorknot

“Chauvin will pay the price for his reckless stupidity whether or not he was directly responsible for Floyd’s death.”

How should a person with ExDS be restrained?


69 posted on 06/24/2020 3:26:59 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

How should a person with ExDS be restrained?


Why should a handcuffed person with no pulse be additionally restrained?


70 posted on 06/24/2020 3:28:42 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: windsorknot

I’m amazed by the number of Chauvin apologists who don’t seem to have any problem with what he did.


There’s always a few bigots on the internet looking for a new kamikaze mission. I doubt they would have the same opinion had this occurred at a Trump rally.

My local tough on looters sheriff called it “murder” and said he was “shocked” other cops did not intervene. I see a pretty broad consensus here on this case. This isn’t Ferguson. Or Atlanta. Or Trayvon. Etc. These dirty Minneapolis cops are going to hang and rightly so.


71 posted on 06/24/2020 3:32:12 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

“Why should a handcuffed person with no pulse be additionally restrained?”

Don’t know, as it’s not relevant to cause of death.


72 posted on 06/24/2020 3:36:45 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

Don’t know, as it’s not relevant to cause of death.


Now there is a winning political argument. Might as well just say the “thug” deserved the beating he got from those dirty cops while handcuffed and unconscious.


73 posted on 06/24/2020 4:34:11 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Jewbacca
the optics are very bad, even if there is some reason behind this...

still we don't have a justice system anymore....the system could convict a nun of praying too much if they wanted....

74 posted on 06/24/2020 4:36:40 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Jewbacca
Derek Chauvin’s knee was on George Floyd's right trapezius muscle.

The softer parts of Floyd's neck were further forward and sloping almost straight down in relation to Chauvin’s knee.

Anyone can check this by lying down in the prone position and turning his/her face to the right.

If I was a Minneapolis cop, I would have gone to Chauvin’s bond hearing and let Chauvin put his knee on my neck.

Then, I would have sung patriotic songs and recited Bible verses for 8 minutes, to offend Attorney General Keith Ellison, and also so the judge could see I was breathing without effort.

75 posted on 06/25/2020 12:43:28 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: hanamizu

that why it is not going to happen, it is not about logic, and the two condemning points are that

1 )Floyd was handcuffed and

2) after the infamous , I can’t breathe Chauvin did not let up for 10 secs but appears to bear down. Its the sheer length of almost 9 minutes of kneeling that is the worst part that cannot be explained away. Chauvin wasn’t even the originally arresting officer but jumped in to show how it was done.

Lots of officers would testify that once you have them handcuffed on the ground it is over. If he had had only done it for 1 minute it would be different story. Sad, the death and destruction and probably leading to a Biden victory too.


76 posted on 06/25/2020 1:06:31 AM PDT by TECTopcat (e)
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To: Jewbacca

Excellent discussion of ExDS.


77 posted on 06/25/2020 7:35:14 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 ( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
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To: gnickgnack2

It is.

It surprised me how supposed conservatives already fell for the MSM propaganda.

I think they are afraid of being called racist for pointing out the obvious.


78 posted on 06/25/2020 7:39:11 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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