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"I FELT VIOLATED"|Police Search Baltimore County House Over BB Gun in Virtual Class
WBFF ^ | 06/10/2020 | Chris Papst

Posted on 06/13/2020 4:53:29 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Don’t let CAMERAS into your homes! Zoom, whatever!

Don’t give away your privacy. (what’s left of it)


41 posted on 06/13/2020 6:21:57 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Courtney says she was told the school safety officer then called police.

Both the school safety officer (just a wild guess - her name was Karen) and the police who responded and talked this woman into letting them enter her house should be fired. They won't be, because America is fundamentally broken at this point, but they should be.
42 posted on 06/13/2020 6:34:34 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Recommend response for interaction w police who arrive unbidden at
your property: first, do not open the door. Secure your phone or tablet and begin video recording. Open a window to initiate verbal contact. Use a second story window if possible. Ask the officer politely
to state their business. Allow them to speak. Ask “is that all?” That may prompt them to speak more. Your goal here is to gather information, not
give it. Now you’ve documented their case, which warrants you to reply “There is no emergency here. I fully intend to cooperate, officer, as soon as I’ve spoken to my attorney. Please leave your card and I’ll have my attorney contact you”. Then close the window. You’ve now gathered the information you need to share with an attorney or trusted advisor.

Couple of points here: you establish that there is no imminent threat, that you are not uncooperative and that you’ve asked to consult an attorney before answering further questions. And you can skip asking for the warrant. If they had a warrant they’d announce that from the start. Be circumspect in your interactions with police. This link is to a videot that is a bit long but is an excellent law school lecture on why you don’t talk freely to the police:

https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE

Note that the advice above is for the circumstances in the story posted by the OP, ie where you are the focus of the police inquiry. If the cops say they are looking for a burglar then you of course don’t have to lawyer up.


43 posted on 06/13/2020 6:37:40 AM PDT by Panzerfaust (The HK P7 .....it's what Jesus would carry.)
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To: KobraKai

Bricks hurt worse than bb guns.


44 posted on 06/13/2020 6:39:16 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

We will all eventually need to move the computer to an empty closet so no one every sees anything but a blank wall.


45 posted on 06/13/2020 6:41:56 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
That’s outrageous, and another reason to home school.

It's another reason to get rid of principals and teachers who think like this. You can pull your kids out of public school, but they will grow up to live in a world filled with young adults whose parents couldn't or didn't pull them out of public school - and we can see the results of that in the ongoing riots. Fight to take back the public schools if you care about the future of this nation.
46 posted on 06/13/2020 6:44:44 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Elsie

A ‘Peeping Tom’ would be arrested for leering into your window.

Should not a similar rule apply here?


No. This is not the same as a Peeping Tom case. The student and parents authorized the use of the camera. The lesson to learn here is that the camera is the epitome of objective as it shows everything within the view of the camera. To prevent this, either have a blank wall as a backdrop or put something up (like a sheet) to prevent the camera from picking up things in the background that others cannot view. Put the back of the chair up against the wall and the desk in front of the chair. Hang nothing on the wall or remove all items from the wall. Never move the lens of the camera from the direction of the wall. If asked to show something, never move the camera but move the item to the camera to be shown (an item might be a drawing for homework etc.).

Never should one use a computer camera with an open room in the background as there is too much personal information given away. Having this type of camera etiquette/rules/policy will ensure that something like this will more than likely never happen in the future. Green screens (even those that are not green in color) can possibly cause future problems as well, as the image can be digitally manipulated.


47 posted on 06/13/2020 6:50:27 AM PDT by zaxtres
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
...a screenshot was taken during the online class. The principal of Seneca Elementary was notified. Courtney says she was told the school safety officer then called police.
Lawyer up. Sue all three of them and the school district.

48 posted on 06/13/2020 7:04:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

She lost me at “ I let him in”.


49 posted on 06/13/2020 7:07:59 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight neiyour way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Understand that a BB gun in the hands of a white child represents a far greater potential threat to the future advance of collectivism than an AK-47 in the hands of a Raz Simone.

The police are already operating as the enforcers of a "1984" mentality in government.

“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.” — George Orwell, Inside The Whale, 1940

50 posted on 06/13/2020 7:12:59 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Does the school district supply webcams

Here in California they loan out chrome books.


51 posted on 06/13/2020 9:02:01 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Knock, knock, knock........
Yes officer, how can I help you? I’d like to come into your house.
Do you have a warrant? No.
Get off my property, SLAM!!!


52 posted on 06/13/2020 10:18:26 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: bgill
We will all eventually need to move the computer to an empty closet so no one every sees anything but a blank wall.

No; we need to have this image blown up at your local sign shop to put on the blank wall behind the child.



53 posted on 06/13/2020 6:37:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: super7man
if you're a Kennedy, a framed picture of Che is OK.

Best post of the thread!

54 posted on 06/14/2020 11:52:07 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." --Donald Trump)
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