Posted on 06/09/2020 6:19:07 AM PDT by artichokegrower
A U.S. Navy investigation into the spread of the coronavirus aboard the Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier has found that about 60 percent of sailors tested had antibodies for the virus, two U.S. officials told Reuters on Monday, suggesting a far higher infection rate than previously known.
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So a fatality rate of 0.0002% in a very close environment. Most who tested positive for Covid-19 showed no symptoms. Story dropped by the media as it did not fit their narrative.
If this testing keeps up, I think we will find, 100 million Americans were infected and a infinitesimal number became sick enough to be hospitalized and an even smaller percentage died....
I guess we’ll know in a bit over a week when scores of rioters start dropping dead (or not).
Your math is off by a factor of 100. That’s 0.02%.
Now they are about to roll out a home test.
And the idiot captain purposefully created a political firestorm, and promptly sidelined America’s most expensive weapons system, which was on active duty, for two months.
I got a lot of flack for criticizing Crozier (he just loves his men! You are not a USN captain!) but I can’t believe we have snowflakes like this running our armed forces.
And even fared better.
Yup.
It’s only a story if it fits their narrative, and preferably has video or pictures.
Realistically, you can only protect a small portion of the population, those at a truly high risk, i.e. a cancer patient on chemo therapy for example, or someone who recently had an organ transplant (immune suppressant drugs to ward off organ rejection)…
You CANNOT realistically stop the spread of such viruses in society et al. The consequences of doing such would be worse than the disease!
The silver lining is that while such contagious diseases basically “run their course,” they tend not to be very lethal, i.e. common cold, the flu, etc.
MOST the measures taken because of Corona virus have been no more than acts to “show action.” They are ineffective. However, it gives people a sense of control, shows managers and politicians did something, or creates a sense of solidarity in some weird way... It is about managing peoples feelings more than actually doing anything. If you confront people about this, you will receive an emotional response and no logical or scientific answer even from those who are the “experts.”
I still can’t believe the fuss that shitbag captain made over this utter nonsense.
The DoD was supposed to stay open for business even if a mushroom cloud goes up somewhere, or so I thought.
The captain should express his concern to the chain of command and document it. He should not pull a national asset with potentially huge implications for national security off-line by making public statements to force his will by making this into an issue of public/political debate. But today everyone wants to be heard and get their 15 minutes of fame. He should retire and write a book, I’m sure Collin Powell and 3 other people will buy it.
Your statement makes me wonder how many other bugaboos that a large percentage of the population has immunity with a very low mortality rate. We simply don't test everyone to find out. But when you have ship, like an aircraft carrier, with a relatively closed population, you have a decent model of what is really happening. That's much better than experts are cooking up on a computer to shut down the economy.
I got a lot of flack for criticizing Crozier (he just loves his men! You are not a USN captain!) but I can’t believe we have snowflakes like this running our armed forces.
Agree. History is proving the now fired acting Navy secretary was correct. I suspect that is the reason the JCS wanted him gone. They seem to be running the Pentagon with little to no executive branch oversight these days.
I understand your sentiment and largely agree. I don’t doubt that he cared for his crew and was popular. But it is not his job to be popular. It his job to be the Captain, to run an efficient ship ready and capable of carrying out the mission.
Personally, I read the letter he wrote and sent up the chain, and he stated he was willing to keep going as is and “fight the ship” as he put it, but he is the Captain of one of the most powerful naval vessels in the world, and he should have known better than to spam that up the chain the way he did.
That should have gone only to people to whom he was a direct report instead of spamming it up the chain to nearly a dozen people (IIRC, there were 9 or 10 people he sent it to)
For people in his position, there is a different expectation of awareness and responsibility, and he should have known there was a highly explosive political component associated with it.
Until I hear otherwise, I am assuming he did not send that with the knowledge it would be leaked to the San Francisco Chronicle by an unsavory political scum up the chain who got access to it.
I think that guy made a mistake. At his level in his position as a Captain of a capital ship, the tolerance for those kinds of mistakes is (and should be) very low.
They should never have considered returning his command, IMO. I don’t think the guy is a bad guy or even a bad Captain, but making a mistake like that tends to make people up the chain nervous about his judgement, and for good reason.
Thanks for this reasoned reply.
I have never been in the USN, but even by then, it was pretty well known that the disease had very limited effects on young, healthy people. Even an abundance of caution could have been addressed by bringing aboard a few extra nursing staff, ventilators, etc… NOT shutting the entire ship down. The Chinese are laughing their butts off.
I personally think that was his most egregious error, exposing the operational readiness of a major asset by not focusing his concerns only to the people he was directly reporting to.
That is, in my mind huge.
I heard many people state that we weren’t at war, so we should have been more lenient in the handling of it.
I disagree with that.
These warships must be on as close to war readiness at all times as they can be, and should be run that way, IMO. We don’t get three week notices when war breaks out...
Not the tradition we saw of the USN that we just celebrated on the anniversary of the Battle of Midway. Definitely not in the spirit of Torpedo Squadron VT-8
VT-8’s first and best-known combat mission came during the Battle of Midway on 4 June 1942. Flying obsolete Douglas TBD Devastators, all of Lieutenant Commander John C. Waldron’s fifteen planes were shot down during their unescorted torpedo attack on Imperial Japanese Navy aircraft carriers. The squadron failed to damage any Japanese carriers or destroy enemy aircraft.
Only one member of VT-8 who flew from Hornet on that day survived in the action, Ensign George Gay. Ensign Gay was rescued the day following the battle. Torpedo 8 was afterwards awarded the American Presidential Unit Citation.
I have no real proof, but some early reports have started to surface.
Blood type plays a key roll on who gets sick and who ends up needing to be hospitalized...
Ancestry and 23andme who have millions of DNA gnomes on file have started cross reference the DNA with infections and deaths around the country....
I suspect the results will show DNA is the one key factor along with Blood Type that plays the key factors in getting infected and becoming really sick...
I suspect Crozier was looking for a “John Kerry” way out of potential combat with China, and to become a darling of the Demoncrat side. His outrageous actions are never warranted
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