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To: Red6

Ancap much?

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57 posted on 06/07/2020 6:59:16 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: Celtic Conservative

And you know what, when they increased the speed limit from 55, people didn’t all die either, and in fact in a few places like in Germany where you STILL have stretches of Autobahn that have no restrictions, people don’t all die in accidents their either.

No, I’m not an anarchist, but I also don’t believe in a nanny state, do you know what that is, a “nanny state?”

***Do you know what the ONLY difference is between American conservatives and American liberals? What their idea of big government is.

***Liberals want to control everything in the name of social justice and the environment.

***Conservatives want to control everything in the name of spies, terrorists and foreign nation threats.

BOTH are equally invasive, willing to create big government and spend like mad, side step the US Constitution and basic rights or the process. As long as it’s for their cause.

He’s an idea, I’m a strict Constitutionalist. I am one of those corny guys that actually believes in what that document says, that the folks writing it weren’t clowns and knew exactly what words they were choosing, and worst of all believe that the US was an exceptional place because of that, once upon a time. Today, the US is just like some other European country. It’s a social democracy with a big federal government directing how much water your toilet uses per flush and what light bulb you have, you get searched at airports without probable cause in your person and affects, but you walk around talking about freedom and liberty, bla bla bla. What a joke.


75 posted on 06/08/2020 10:40:39 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Celtic Conservative

At some point, if you are a true “conservative,” you come to the conclusion that you cannot accommodate a big nanny state or a perfectly safe place and true freedom.

Tell me, in what part of the US Constitution are FISA courts allowed? Where does the US Constitution agree with what is in the Patriot Act?

Or better yet, you tell me, which one, just one single one of the Bill or Rights has not been abridged?

The US is not a Republic on which it was based (we are a republic, not a democracy by design) because the US Constitution has been circumnavigated. While you call me an anarchist, most folks sworn in under the US Constitution cannot tell you what the first ten amendments even are!!! Sure, they have a good credit score, paid all their traffic tickets, they never smoked weed, or pirated software, so Bill Gates is happy. But the people sworn in under the ideas expressed in a document they are suppose to defend or uphold do not even know the most basic tenets of what it’s about, think about that one. In this country, where people talk about freedom, democracy, the rule of law and justice, you will get hammered harder for not paying a toll road bill than interfering with national elections by using a secret FISA court to collect on a political opponent. That is what happens when government comes to help, may it be for the children, to save us from global warming or protect us from terrorists. No, no no... and I ask you again this question. When the federal government shut down all their law enforcement (ATF, DEA, FBI, TSA, Federal Marshal Service) by ~75%, what changed for you? Were you attacked? Did your neighborhood disintegrate with burning houses and angry mobs roaming the streets? I’ll answer it for you, nothing changed because just like global warming and the billions wasted on fighting that scare, the government wastes billions on law enforcement which accomplishes NOTHING, zero, zip, nadda. There is a mission for federal law enforcement, but it is about 1/4 of what it is today. You can literally accomplish the same (as in what actual impact you have on national security) with 1/4 the people.

So, while as a conservative you likely agree with cutting on the EPA and Department of Education (which you see most likely as a waste of resources and ineffective - and that is also true), I bring to you the idea that this also applies to other areas that are holy for so-called conservatives that in reality want big government also.


76 posted on 06/08/2020 12:36:16 PM PDT by Red6
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