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Independent autopsy finds George Floyd's death 'was homicide caused by asphyxia'
Washington Examiner ^ | June 1, 2020 | Mica Soellner

Posted on 06/01/2020 12:34:07 PM PDT by kevcol

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To: Socon-Econ
Dueling autopsies? How can we know which is right?

We don't, and that's the point of the "independent" autopsy.

Don't get me wrong here, I don't know which is right either. All I'm saying is both sides have a vested interest in getting the outcome to say what they want/need it to say.

IMO, there are no clean hands here. Everyone and everything is corrupt AFAIK. It's impossible to know who's telling the truth anymore.

221 posted on 06/01/2020 3:27:37 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Osage Orange

I don’t understand the confusion either.

When you have a person handcuffed, face down, with other officers, the person is IN YOUR CUSTODY and you have a RESPONSIBILITY to make sure no harm comes to them. The cop did the opposite, then the man died. It’s not how ANYONE would want to be treated when you’re in CUSTODY. It doesn’t matter if he had struggled, he is no threat to the officers at that point.

Does ANYONE believe that the man wouldn’t be alive right now if the cop hadn’t had his knee on the mans neck for so long? He died right there.


222 posted on 06/01/2020 3:34:07 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Bob434
he had two serious heart conditions, and clogged arteries to boot- plus it’s possible he was high on drugs- the police had called for an ambulance, so something was going on that caused them to be suspicious of his actions enough to call the ambulance-

I just read that Baden's autopsy report found no evidence of heart disease. I'll have to read it myself to see if that article was mistaken, because that's a huge point of contention - one that no medical examiner should miss.

Might have to go best five out of seven autopsies on this one.

223 posted on 06/01/2020 3:41:04 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: moonman

Also this: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/medical-examiner-deems-george-floyds-manner-of-death-a-homicide


224 posted on 06/01/2020 3:43:32 PM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: Socon-Econ

He is the county ME report: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/medical-examiner-deems-george-floyds-manner-of-death-a-homicide


225 posted on 06/01/2020 3:44:17 PM PDT by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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To: PIF
. but then, others say was crime of opportunity since they knew each other, and the dead guy was fooling around with the cop’s wife ...

First I've heard about the infidelity angle - though people are struggling to connect the dots regarding Floyd and Chauvin's prior association. Have you seen the Breitbart article about the El Nuevo Rodeo? If some of what is speculated there is true, we'll never know the truth about this case.

226 posted on 06/01/2020 3:49:54 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: kevcol

The left has a knack for getting the autopsy results that it wants. They got the ‘correct’ autopsy results for Jeffrey Epstein too.


227 posted on 06/01/2020 3:57:22 PM PDT by KobraKai
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To: John S Mosby
Seeing is believing, sure— which is why eyewitness testimony is rarely accurate.

Police eyewitness testimony should carry the same weight as any regular person.

228 posted on 06/01/2020 4:27:23 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: HamiltonJay

“Then you need to learn how to read, or better understand the English language.”

There is no reason to insult me. I am just clarifying your statement. bye


229 posted on 06/01/2020 4:53:54 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DiogenesLamp

Don’t waste your time on Griefer, he is just old angry person.


230 posted on 06/01/2020 4:55:00 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: John S Mosby
My question is— why were other officers just standing around.... once he was handcuffed why the hell keep the compression. No sense to that. <

Because they circle the wagons around their own 100% of the time. Remember the Australian woman, Justine Ruszczyk, who was murdered by the saracen cop Mohamed Noor? They circled the wagons around him too. Even some FReepers here did.

231 posted on 06/01/2020 5:18:49 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: HamiltonJay

Agree with you. MN is a very odd German heritage Socialist state government that frankly mimics the Leftist Socialism which in Weimar Germany developed into the German Labor Socialist Party which came with a nationalist bent and militarism, and was known as the Nazis. This kind of socialist supports its socialism through force from a police force the powers that be controls.

It should be no surprise that Sen. Amy Klobuchar was a State Atty Prosecutor of Hennepin County and neglected to follow up with MANY bad cop cases-including a prior case with the Chauvin officer and many others— because her party is a MACHINE of police state loving Socialists. Thus, no surprise, dumb as she is— she is photographed with Amb. Voyanovych, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and former Ukrainian President (and Biden’s best buddy who fired the Prosecutor coming after his coke head son Hunter) Poroshenko. Klobuchar is a corruptocrat Socialist of the worst variety— making money out of police power.


232 posted on 06/01/2020 5:28:03 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: wastedyears

Yes the Somali lunatic who fired at the woman through the open window of the patrol car, past the driver his police partner whom she was speaking with. The standards of police training, ie. being for the Somali language overridden-— came to this.

BTW the Hennepin County US House District— no surprise, is the Somali lying Lefist muzzie Ilhan Omar who is running her mouth about the “victims” and agitating against ANY police being there at all.


233 posted on 06/01/2020 5:36:09 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

Difficult, I’m sure, for any officer to know what they’re dealing with when they reach a suspect, but I imagine going forward they’ll be calling out the cavalry when a suspect resists arrest or complains of health problems, just to cover their butts. Now we’ll see the Fire Department, Paramedics, AND the cops at a scene.


234 posted on 06/01/2020 6:01:14 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: DiogenesLamp

Its known as Testilieing


235 posted on 06/02/2020 9:01:48 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: malach

People drop dead from strokes and heart attacks doing normal things without expressing much in the way of symptoms. It’s not common but I’ve been to two funerals in my lifetime where that happened. One heart attack, one stroke after the autopsy it was discovered they had underlying problems but nothing that showed up and disturbed their normal routine.


238 posted on 06/02/2020 2:51:17 PM PDT by Reily
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