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Corona Virus Daily Thread #53 COVID-19 5/23/2020
5/23/20 | Many

Posted on 05/23/2020 8:51:48 AM PDT by riri

Memorial Day Weekend Corona Virus Thread


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavanity; coronavirus; covid; fearbro; flubro
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To: firebrand

Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis
Harvey A Risch

American Journal of Epidemiology, kwaa093, https://doi.org/10.1093/aje/kwaa093
Published: 27 May 2020

“ Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is <20%, 9/100,000 users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe.”

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586


461 posted on 05/28/2020 2:30:35 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

‘Thousands’ Of Dutch COVID-19 Survivors Likely Have Permanent Lung Damage According To Top Pulmonologist

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by Tyler Durden
Thu, 05/28/2020 - 12:54

According to Leon van den Toorn, Chairman of the Dutch Association of Physicians for Pulmonary Disease and Tuberculosis NVALT, people are underestimating the consequences of the coronavirus.

“In severe cases, a kind of scar formation occurs, we call this lung fibrosis. The lungs shrink and the lung tissue becomes stiffer, making it harder to get enough oxygen,” Van den Toorn told Dutch newspaper AD (via the NL Times), adding that “there may be thousands of people in the Netherlands who suffered permanent injury to the lungs from corona.”

Of the 1,200 Covid-19 patients who so far recovered after admission to intensive care, “almost 100 percent went home with residual damage”, he said to AD. And about half of the 6 thousand people who were hospitalized, but did not need intensive care, will have symptoms for years to come.

So far 45,500 people in the Netherlands tested positive for the coronavirus. Many did not get sick enough to need hospital care. In this group, Van den Toorn expects that permanent problems will be less serious, but still possible. -NL Times

Van den Toorn says that patients experiencing lung issues should immediately see a pulmonologist, as “there may be a low oxygen level in the blood, which is harmful to the body.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/thousands-dutch-covid-19-survivors-left-permanent-lung-damage-according-top-pulmonologist


462 posted on 05/28/2020 2:38:02 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

The 2020 Boston Marathon has been canceled

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-marathon-2/2020/05/28/2020-boston-marathon-canceled


463 posted on 05/28/2020 2:38:50 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: In_Iowa_not_from
I defend the right for YOU to wear a mask and self isolate, and to wipe down your groceries with disinfectant....

why don't you defend my rights?....

if you stay away from people you are not at risk...

so why are you not defending MY rights?

464 posted on 05/28/2020 2:43:16 PM PDT by cherry
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To: LilFarmer
last year, if a person at an event had the flu, would there be testing of everybody else at the event?.....no....

we're finding cases because we're testing so many people....asymptomatic people...

465 posted on 05/28/2020 2:44:31 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

I’m not following case counts as much as hospitalizations. That’s where the real story lies.

But I do post about outbreaks because freepers live in those areas and might like the info.


466 posted on 05/28/2020 2:54:08 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: cherry; LilFarmer

Check out Lil Farmer’s post 462. This is lung damage. There is also nervous system damage and damage to various organs.

We can’t keep citing the death numbers as if they are the only damage.

Soon we will reach 200 million posts about deaths compared with the flu. So there’s also a reading comprehension problem.


467 posted on 05/28/2020 2:57:41 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: cherry

Since the recommendations are only recommendations, your constitutional rights have not even been threatened, much less taken away.


468 posted on 05/28/2020 2:59:56 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: cherry

Those who keep spreading the virus extend the time for which those who are following the recommendations have to stay indoors or wear masks.

If anyone is threatening anyone’s rights, it’s the people who are making this go on longer than it has to.


469 posted on 05/28/2020 3:02:19 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: cherry

With rights come responsibilities.

Hypothetically, if someone refuses to social distance and or wear PPE/masks without good reason*, then goes on to spread the disease which results in multiple hospitalizations and deaths, then HE opens himself to civil and criminal prosecution. For instance, that mayor that infected the city council and all in attendance at the meeting.

*Good reason= not wearing a mask due to difficulty breathing or other health issue. Of course, if it hard for someone to breath with a mask on, then it will certainly be hard for that person to breath if he gets a coronavirus infection.


470 posted on 05/28/2020 4:06:38 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: Black Agnes

not just the male pop

look at the placental effects. Clotting and other abnormalities including interference with regulation of oxygen transfer to the fetus.

China, as usual, has hidden and outright lied about most of the morbidities the western world has been forced into discovering for themselves.


471 posted on 05/28/2020 4:17:23 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: LilFarmer

Yeah, I posted several times here over 3 months ago there would be long term cardio pulmonary damage and pulmonary fibrosis, particularly in those who went onto vents. There were studies that showed this with SARS and ARDS. Pulmonary Fibrosis, Organ Failure, depression, etc. One of the long term impacts is Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3819266/posts?page=6#6


472 posted on 05/28/2020 4:48:12 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

this was new to intel agencies? what took them so long?

We’ve been slamming Panda Propaganda for 5 months now!


473 posted on 05/28/2020 5:22:15 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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I just realized who Karen is: She’s the fearless, gun-totin’ heroine of Elmore Leonard’s Out of Sight, the U.S. marshal who corners all the bad guys and sends them back to prison or into the Great Beyond.

I decided I like the name Karen.


474 posted on 05/28/2020 6:24:39 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Karen Sisco. Had to took it up.


475 posted on 05/28/2020 6:25:50 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: cherry

*we’re finding cases because we’re testing so many people....asymptomatic people...*

How can flu be compared with CCPVirus? The symptoms, infectivity, affected systems, treatments and prognosis are completely different.

We’re finding cases because the cases exist. The asymptomatic is the problem child - the bull in the china shop.


476 posted on 05/28/2020 7:43:15 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum
What the hell is wrong with these people??? Bet that trash included potentially Woo Woo infested masks.

We really don't deserve to go on.

477 posted on 05/28/2020 7:50:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: blueplum

Believe me, if I could publicly execute everybody who deserved it, there would be a major hemp shortage and no population problem afterward. Straight up!


478 posted on 05/28/2020 7:51:54 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Black Agnes

I’m pretty sure that the whole “masks are slavery” bit is Red Ching Chong Ding Dong propaganda. That’s why I DON’T F*CKING LISTEN TO IT.


479 posted on 05/28/2020 7:55:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: LilFarmer

They should take a few blood samples and check them for corruption of red blood cells. This thing is a heme goblin in some people.


480 posted on 05/28/2020 7:56:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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