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Corona Virus Daily Thread #53 COVID-19 5/23/2020
5/23/20 | Many

Posted on 05/23/2020 8:51:48 AM PDT by riri

Memorial Day Weekend Corona Virus Thread


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavanity; coronavirus; covid; fearbro; flubro
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To: LilFarmer
Recurrence of SARS‐CoV‐2 infection with a more severe case after mild COVID‐19, reversion of RT‐qPCR for positive and late antibody response: case report https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.26432
3,441 posted on 08/16/2020 1:33:17 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

I believe that is a fake report about Putin’s daughter.
Will be interesting if true though (yet sad). How would such a notorious event affect their efforts?


3,442 posted on 08/16/2020 1:36:10 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

Yeah, it’s crazy. When they said she took the first dose, I didn’t really believe it.


3,443 posted on 08/16/2020 1:37:30 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

On after-effects...
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.12.20173526v1.full.pdf

” Interpretation:
Patients with COVID-19 remain highly symptomatic at 8-12 weeks, however, clinical abnormalities requiring
action are infrequent, especially in those without a supplementary oxygen requirement during their acute illness.
This has significant implications for physicians assessing patients with persistent symptoms, suggesting that a
more holistic approach focussing on rehabilitation and general wellbeing is paramount. “

A little bit on the ‘good news’ side, but not a lot.


3,444 posted on 08/16/2020 3:01:02 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: LilFarmer

Creekview becomes 3rd Cherokee high school to temporarily close over COVID-19 cases

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/cherokee-county/creekview-becomes-3rd-cherokee-high-school-temporarily-close-over-covid-19-cases/AQH446HBKVHHFMG2BYOCSGIYAE/

That’s 3 out of the six high schools in the county. 25 cases and 500 quarantined from this school. Parents are upset, I hate to tell them but they do have a choice. It’s pretty easy to homeschool in GA.


3,445 posted on 08/16/2020 3:32:02 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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3,446 posted on 08/16/2020 4:16:08 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

https://thehill.com/policy/international/512260-new-zealand-delays-general-election-after-covid-19-outbreak

NZ has shown the worst of useless “over-reaction” IMO.
(And sorry about the over-sized pic above.)


3,447 posted on 08/16/2020 4:28:02 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/07/27/Three-quarters-of-adults-with-COVID-19-have-heart-damage-after-recovery/5451595856303/?spt=su&or=btn_tw&ur3=1

Mayhap you missed this one.

We’d all better hope this isn’t true. Well be looking at single payer and death panels head on.

Social security and medicare will make out like gangbusters though. No late boomers or gen-xers will be living long enough to actually GET more than a cpl years benefit from either.


3,448 posted on 08/16/2020 5:47:13 PM PDT by Black Agnes (1)
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I think the more recent study is more useful
Note: the study is not really much “good news”. I shouldn’t have implied that.

My big problem with the UPI report is that the study did not have a comparison of previous MRIs of the hearts, or even of a bunch that didn’t have covid.
Because studies find what they look for.

But mostly, I hope that the earlier, better treatment we have now makes a dramatic difference in long-term effects.
Not disparaging the issue of after-effects. Just trying to get a handle on it.


3,449 posted on 08/16/2020 5:59:04 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

I posted these earlier today, also along these lines:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768914


3,450 posted on 08/16/2020 6:35:32 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Gotta say again.

It’s despicable that China covered up and lied about their outbreak. Killing many of their own by not asking for help, and killing many of us.
We’d be 2 months further along in our understanding if they had just acted like humans.

Imagine the good we could do if we had the knowledge we’ll have in 2 months- about effects, treatments, whatever- at our hands now.
Unforgiveable.


3,451 posted on 08/16/2020 7:04:20 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Black Agnes

“”We need long-term follow-up studies of COVID-19 survivors to see whether [the virus] impacts cardiac function over the long-term,” he said”


3,452 posted on 08/16/2020 7:32:30 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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To: Black Agnes

My point is that you post:

“mild/asymptomatic cases == long term heart damage...”

and one of the study authors for your last post re: study says:

“We need long-term follow-up studies of COVID-19 survivors to see whether [the virus] impacts cardiac function over the long-term”

The two may or may not be mutually exclusive.


3,453 posted on 08/16/2020 7:36:53 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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https://twitter.com/Trinhnomics/status/1295177714761007106

” Here is a chart of Q2 2020 GDP and lengths of lock-downs. You can see that the severity of lock-down = severity of economic decline... “

Not definitive of anything, but interesting.


3,454 posted on 08/16/2020 8:36:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

There was a control group. Not sure why you think there wasn’t.

The jama link is in the upi article.

not sure what ‘treatment’ does when it takes 2 WEEKS to get test results back in most of the sunbelt. It’s all over but the shouting at that point.

And even the asymptomatic/mild cases incurred heart damage. Makes total sense. The virus binds to ACE2 receptors. Those are found in heart, kidney, gut lining and testicles.

Wonder when someone is going to ‘sack up’ and do the same study on ‘recovered’ patients wrt male hormones and swimmer count...

There’s a *reason* china is NOT going herd with this thing.


3,455 posted on 08/16/2020 9:01:53 PM PDT by Black Agnes (1)
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To: Black Agnes

Looked again and see no control group.
It’s an observational study.

I’m not saying to discard it’s observations.


3,456 posted on 08/16/2020 11:01:43 PM PDT by mrsmith (`(US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: LilFarmer; sockmonkey

Picked up curbside order from Wallyworld first thing this morning. First day of school so hoped to get in at the last minute before the next outbreak. The county is down to 86 active cases. That’s waaay below the beginning of the month at over 200 (that’s the adjusted number minus the prison cases they dumped in all at once).

Disinfected most everything but hubby couldn’t stand that I hadn’t gotten to the freezer stuff so he put it in without disinfecting anything and putting the plastic bags in the bedside trash... sigh. Two hours later and he’s still not showered or washed his clothes. Honestly, I might as well talk to the cats for all the good it does. Of course, he only made the trip to the store so he could stop at McD’s and stuff CV straight into his mouth. Yeah, mama’s not happy this morning.

Speaking of cats, finally was able to get the treats they like but couldn’t get the dewormer. Have one who can’t seem to get rid of worms. Doctored her every other week for 3 times (directions say it works the first time) and it’s not doing the trick. Guess I’ll have to UPS something else.


3,457 posted on 08/17/2020 7:59:31 AM PDT by bgill
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Glad to hear cases are going down in your county. Mine are still ramping up and hitting records with the schools opening. The upside (maybe) is they will peak and fall before the cold months set in...

We have a few of those conversations at my house, not fun.

Old Bay was out of stock today at Kroger. I did manage to score some tp, but it’s the tiny rolls that last about 2 days lol.


3,458 posted on 08/17/2020 8:57:49 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: bgill

Woo hoo, got celery early for the holiday dressing. Chopped up and in the freezer. One would think there’d be celery in the stores around the holidays but not here, ugh. No corn syrup either for holiday baking but have some in the pantry from last year (not low carb friendly). There might be some cranberry sauce in the pantry but will have to order some next month or it’ll be too late.

Turkeys are usually in stock but you have to make sure they’re priced correctly. Can’t remember if we ate last year’s extra turkey or not but I’m not going worry about the bird as we can make do with chicken already in the packed freezer.

There is one can of sweet potatoes (ick) in the pantry along with some pumpkin. Some homemade rolls and the holidays are done. Have to think ahead here even though we’re not that far from the city but somehow we’re at the bottom of the food chain.

Just a bit worried the case numbers will rise from schools opening. Bought hubby some powdered creamer for his coffee this time in case he can’t get to the store for the real stuff. I can drink tea or water. Dang, prices still keep going up.


3,459 posted on 08/17/2020 9:16:01 AM PDT by bgill
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"Main Outcomes and Measures Demographic characteristics, cardiac blood markers, and cardiovascular magnetic resonance (CMR) imaging were obtained. Comparisons were made with age-matched and sex-matched control groups of healthy volunteers (n = 50) and risk factor–matched patients (n = 57)." You didn't read very far in...
3,460 posted on 08/17/2020 9:20:41 AM PDT by Black Agnes (1)
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