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FBI Director Wray opens internal investigation into how bureau handled Michael Flynn case
Fox News ^ | May 22 2020

Posted on 05/22/2020 12:07:57 PM PDT by knighthawk

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To: knighthawk
FBI Director Wray opens internal investigation into how bureau handled Michael Flynn case

These are the same guys who told all they could not find a motive for that very elaborate Las Vegas mass shooting.

61 posted on 05/22/2020 12:44:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Migraine
They are way more bureau than they are investigation

Well said!

62 posted on 05/22/2020 12:45:36 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: knighthawk

The head of a gaggle of foxes calling for the fixes to investigate who is killing the chickens. Wray is as deep in the swamp critter fen as anyone can get. He IS the enemy of the Republic trying to remain hidden in the slop.


63 posted on 05/22/2020 12:46:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: knighthawk

Is this a joke?
I saw a couple of federal defense attorneys across the restaurant from me. I asked them what percentage of their cases they believed they had received all of the Brady material from the USAs. One replied less than 1%, the other said never.
Flynn should be head of the FBI and Powell AG.


64 posted on 05/22/2020 12:47:06 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd [PBUH---Pigblood be upon him]; Charles Martel for President)
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To: adorno

Oh you need to grow up! If we cz not depend on a corrupt scandal ridden government department over justice for all, then by God who can we trust. I’m sure it will be through, honest, accurate and also report that Oswald acted alone!

What’s not to believe?


65 posted on 05/22/2020 12:47:07 PM PDT by Bommer (t'am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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To: knighthawk

This is the cover Trump needs to fire everyone at the FBI. He can say this should have been completed years ago.


66 posted on 05/22/2020 12:47:55 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: knighthawk
Now that Flynn is about to sing, the FBI will shutdown any and all members from speaking until after their own investigation.

Investigation = cover up.
67 posted on 05/22/2020 12:48:55 PM PDT by John 3_19-21
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To: John 3_19-21

Nailed it.


68 posted on 05/22/2020 12:49:39 PM PDT by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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To: knighthawk

That smirking worm, he cannot be trusted with even LOOKING at any evidence.

Time to go, Chris.


69 posted on 05/22/2020 12:50:23 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: knighthawk

THIS JUST IN:

Mr. Wray announced Friday afternoon after spending TWHO WHOLE HOURS on the Internal FBI investigation; he could conclusively report that they did nothing wrong.


70 posted on 05/22/2020 12:50:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: knighthawk

I guess he felt his job was on the line and should probably actually do something. He still needs to go.


71 posted on 05/22/2020 12:52:44 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Reily
Also 302s (and SAs interview notes must be discoverable!) must be recorded and available for the defense. If not recorded & notes not available then it didn’t happen!

302s need to go away period.

Handwritten notes of an interview are totally susceptible to human error and personal bias.

Never talk to the FBI (or any LEO) without your lawyer present and an electronic recording device.

If anything is to be learned from General Flynn’s experience it would be that there is never a casual conversation with an FBI agent.

72 posted on 05/22/2020 12:56:41 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: proust

Why is this allowed? This is not what I expected 2020 to look like when I voted in 2016.

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Indeed. Whatever happened to “Lock Her Up”?


73 posted on 05/22/2020 1:02:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: knighthawk
If Wray wants an impartial investigation of the FBI, I'm reposting my idea from March 5, 2018 (reformatted for easier reading):


As I was reading this article (As D.C. Corruption Mounts, Here’s How The American People Can Get Justice), I was beginning to think of a solution that was close to where the author ended up.

What if the FBI were disbanded as a federal agency, and replaced by a different organization that was populated by the states themselves?

  1. Each state would delegate a number of investigators to serve at the pleasure of their home state, and this body would become a decentralized federal investigative bureau, managed by the states.
  2. As is with the militia, the Constitution provides for calling up the militias for national service, but the officers are selected by the states.
    • It isn't a stretch to declare that state militias have investigators as a component of a military police, perhaps made up of local police department detectives who are also in the state national guard reserves.
    • Use the militia clause in the Constitution to call up the state militias' investigative arms for federal service, with state appointed officers.
    • Each state can create a branch of their militia as MPs, or detectives. These people would report to militia officers appointed within each state, and then these militia branches (officers and detectives) would be called up at the request the Commander-In-Chief and approval by Congress (Article I Section 8: "to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions,") to serve a national priority such as investigating a particular federal crime, under the authority of state officers, not federal bureaucrats.
    • The state officers will report directly to the Commander-In-Chief (Article II Section II: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States").
  3. Once the investigation is complete, the investigating team is released back to the states.
    • If a crime occurred in one state, then the militia police from another state can be called up to investigate.
    • Several investigations across several states can operate in parallel, if needed.

Root cause analyses looks for systemic causes of failures, not behavioral causes.

  1. Part of that review is identifying the protective systems that were in place to prevent what happened from happening, and to brainstorm additional protective systems to catch whatever still slipped through.
  2. Management enforcement of process compliance with consequences for failure to comply is a protective system.
    • Lax management enforcement of process compliance might be a systemic cause if the fix were to reinforce the importance of process compliance and put consequences on management for lack of process discipline.
    • However, in the recent examples of FBI failure, management was not lax in oversight, they were also complicit actors in avoiding the process. This is still behavioral, so the systemic root cause is not yet found.
    • I'm going to suggest that the systemic root cause of the recent FBI disfunction is the "independent" nature of the FBI itself.
      • This was magnified by the behavioral causes that top management felt they were unaccountable to anyone;
      • that a single ideological mindset became established through years of political appointments that controlled the hiring practices of lower-level staff;
      • that using management reinforcement to correct the root cause was ineffective given that management was a part of the problem, if not leading the effort.
  3. Therefore, we must look to other protective systems for corrections.
    • One protective system is the Inspector General. While this seems to be working now, in hindsight it doesn't seem to have been effective at the time the actions were taking place.
      • When the bad actors are the top management itself in a department, an IG is too easily bypassed. Therefore, a new protective system must be put in place.
  4. My proposed corrective system is to replace a federal-centric FBI with a state-centric investigative agency.
    • This agency would have distributed leadership, since by following the militia model in the Constitution, the "officers" would be selected by the states and would be subject to recall at the whim of the home state.
    • A single monolithic mindset cannot become entrenched, since concerned states can replace their officers at any time.
    • I suggested attaching this investigative militia to the Commander-In-Chief directly on a case-by-case basis, with some provision for a senior officer hierarchy to manage separate state contingents.
    • Since Congress has the authority to call up the militia, but the President is the Commander-In-Chief of the militia, there is a check-and-balance already in place.
      • If a state investigative team finds evidence of a crime, the President can refer charges to the Department of Justice for further prosecutorial action.
      • There would be no need for a Special Prosecutor, as the investigative arm of the called up militia units can do this.
      • The Department of Justice can aid the investigations with grand juries, and criminal referrals would be passed along to the Department of Justice for action.
    • The President can then release the militia units back to the states, preventing a runaway special prosecutor from expanding the scope of the investigation.
    • "Process crimes," such as lying to the FBI, would go away as an especially nefarious tool of an over-zealous prosecutor.

A decentralized national investigative structure, overseen by the states but controlled by the commander-in-chief on a case-by-case basis, may be the best way to restore confidence that such an agency is not corrupted by national party bloc interests.

-PJ

74 posted on 05/22/2020 1:04:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: knighthawk

The hounds must be getting within hearing distance of Wray now. One has to wonder why he is just now realizing that an investigation, prosecution and conviction of the rogue elements within his FBI is the only way that we discerning Americans will even begin to think about having any confidence in the FBI again.


75 posted on 05/22/2020 1:04:38 PM PDT by Saltmeat (69)
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To: USS Alaska

I know, right???

Makes me wonder if Sean brown noses FIB Agents so much so because they have some juicy dirt on him?


76 posted on 05/22/2020 1:05:02 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: knighthawk

no one trusts Wray.

NO ONE.

no one trusts the FBI (except terrorists).

NO ONE.


77 posted on 05/22/2020 1:06:31 PM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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To: knighthawk

FBI? You mean we STILL have an FBI?


78 posted on 05/22/2020 1:10:24 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of the Great King!!!)
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To: knighthawk
Director Chris Wray's a company man - he'll discover a few small procedural problems that could be changed.

Wray doesn't get it...

The American people are standing there - looking like Edvard Munch's 'the scream' - and thinking, "if FBI thugs could do this to an American hero - a General - then what could they do to me?"

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/may/18/human-breath-taking-its-toll-on-munch-the-scream-say-scientists-1910-damaging-humidity-paint

Wray: retire the thugs, coup members, and folks who think investigating Christians is more important than investigating bank robbers. Hint: Russia, Russia, Russia was an evil irrational liberal paranoid conspiracy theory - it was stupid from day one.

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The FBI owes the American people an apology ... before they gracefully resign en masse...

79 posted on 05/22/2020 1:10:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (Plan for the worst (intentional bio-weapon attack.) Hope for the best (current plan)...)
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To: knighthawk

Do they think we are stupid? All of this makes my head spin.


80 posted on 05/22/2020 1:13:13 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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