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Firm Can Cut Into Titanic to Recover Telegraph, Judge Says
NY Times ^ | 05-20-2020 | Neil Vigdor and Sandra E. Garcia

Posted on 05/20/2020 8:13:02 AM PDT by NRx

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To: Savage Beast

“It seems to me that the corrosive effects of the ocean would have destroyed all hardware long ago”

Cold seawater lacking oxygen is not corrosive.


81 posted on 05/20/2020 9:08:56 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Savage Beast
The information to be gathered is important, and no disrespect is necessary.

I'd really like to see them articulate exactly what recovering the equipment is going to tell them one way or the other. We know that the messages went out and were received. What's the mystery?

82 posted on 05/20/2020 9:13:26 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: euram

I’m surprised it took 18 post until Trump is mentioned.(sic) On the other hand, my humbled position is to leave it be.


83 posted on 05/20/2020 9:14:30 AM PDT by mdan41 (#MAGA)
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To: Trueblackman

It’s a cemetery. This is grave robbing, just like pilfering the china and other “artifacts” was.

My opinion


84 posted on 05/20/2020 9:15:12 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler ("NUTS!!!")
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To: Peter W. Kessler

Mine also.


85 posted on 05/20/2020 9:15:42 AM PDT by sport
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To: NRx

The justification for this action makes no sense.

There are certainly bits and pieces of the equipment that survived, as much of the metal was brass and copper. Most of those pieces were mounted on wood bases or inside wood housings. Any insulators were almost certainly hard rubber. That would survive. But the wood is gone forever, leaving a pile of loose pieces.

The chance of analyzing what’s left to determine if there was anything wrong with the equipment that led to transmission problems is virtually nil.

Whatever is recovered, particularly the transmitting key, is guaranteed to be extremely valuable to the right person or to a museum.

The “historical research” argument is BS. It’s all about money.


86 posted on 05/20/2020 9:20:57 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (This tagline is an advertisement-free zone. Is yours?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“If they own the salvage rights why do they need a court to say they can salvage anything?”

That’s what I was wondering. If it’s theirs legally, get the Marconi — and the diamonds, too.


87 posted on 05/20/2020 9:21:39 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Nothing happens to a Christian that God does not allow to happen.)
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To: alternatives?

“...There is a great book by a salvage diver at Pearl Harbor....”

“Descent Into Darkness”. One of THE best books I have ever read.

I have a hardcover copy of it. It is amazing. Salvaging operations on the USS Oklahoma.


88 posted on 05/20/2020 9:22:00 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler
It’s a cemetery. This is grave robbing, just like pilfering the china and other “artifacts” was.

If enough time has passed, it isn't grave robbing, it's archeology.

89 posted on 05/20/2020 9:22:16 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (This tagline is an advertisement-free zone. Is yours?)
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To: DoodleDawg
More than 80 years underwater: See the source image
90 posted on 05/20/2020 9:24:35 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: NRx

My opinion is the court’s opinion is the same as saying “that’s a historical piece of granite in the cemetery so ok to salvage that”


91 posted on 05/20/2020 9:29:55 AM PDT by llevrok (Vote while it is still legal)
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To: 1Old Pro
Seems like a lot of money and risk to get the Marconi just to put it in the Luxor.

They also have the huge exhibition in Pigeon Forge they have to stock.

92 posted on 05/20/2020 9:30:08 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: NRx
The radio transmitter could unlock some of the secrets about a missed warning message and distress calls sent from the ship

The "black box." You know, that records the last 3 minutes of the trip. Or something.

93 posted on 05/20/2020 9:30:45 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Jeff Chandler

....GIGGLES....


94 posted on 05/20/2020 9:31:37 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: TexasGator
Cold seawater lacking oxygen is not corrosive.

Exactly. The hull is not technically rusting away, it is being eaten by microbes. The equipment and artifacts inside are in remarkably good condition for the most part.

95 posted on 05/20/2020 9:32:36 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: NRx
Are we seriously supposed to believe that an electronic device submerged under miles of sea water for more than a century is going to give us any insight into how messages might have gotten dropped or misunderstood?

If there's anything left of that Marconi set but a pile of rusticles, I'd be surprised. I can't believe anyone would waste money on such an idiotic venture, let alone rob a gravesite to do it.

What do they hope to gain?

96 posted on 05/20/2020 9:33:03 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack
What do they hope to gain?

Money. Much of the metal in that equipment was brass and copper. That has survived.

97 posted on 05/20/2020 9:35:10 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (This tagline is an advertisement-free zone. Is yours?)
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To: commish

” The hull is not technically rusting away, it is being eaten by microbes.”

Dang microbes will eat anything!


98 posted on 05/20/2020 9:36:10 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“We know that the messages went out and were received.”

We only know the messages that went out from the Titanic AND were received.

Only the operator had knowledge of which messages the Titanic received.


99 posted on 05/20/2020 9:40:37 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
Yes, dad.

Your joke isn't that funny either.

100 posted on 05/20/2020 9:40:51 AM PDT by x
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