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Flattening the Curve or Flattening Trump?
American Thinker.com ^ | May 15, 2020 | Brian C. Joondeph

Posted on 05/15/2020 5:15:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

Flattening the curve is a new term for most of us not steeped in the world of public health or epidemiology. Prior to the Chinese Coronavirus making a mess of lives and economies, this term might have featured in a Saturday morning infomercial on the latest weight loss fad. Now it has become the holy grail of fighting this viral pandemic.

The New York Times, in a rare moment not bashing President Trump, explains flattening the curve. There are two curves, a steep one and a flat one, as we have seen endlessly on the news.

One had a steep peak indicating a surge of coronavirus outbreak in the near term; the other had a flatter slope, indicating a more gradual rate of infection over a longer period of time.

The gentler curve results in fewer people infected at this critical moment in time — preventing a surge that would inundate the healthcare system and ultimately, one hopes, resulting in fewer deaths.

The basketball player wholeheartedly agrees. “What we need to do is flatten that down,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

But the area under the curve, the number of cases, and potentially deaths, is about the same. It is like ripping off a bandage quickly, which may hurt at the moment, versus peeling it off slowly and painlessly but taking longer to accomplish. As the NY Times notes, fewer deaths is what “one hopes” for but not necessarily what one expects.

If the medical system is overwhelmed, there may not be enough ventilators or ICU beds to meet demand. Fortunately, this never occurred, even in the epicenter of New York City.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; coronavirus
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1 posted on 05/15/2020 5:15:48 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It’s far more than either of those at this point.

This is full on totalitarianism.


2 posted on 05/15/2020 5:16:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin

“Flattening the Curve” still means practically everyone should get the virus, but do so over time in a way that allows everyone to have hospital access, if they need it.

Fearpers want “Eliminate the Curve,” which can’t happen if anyone is ever allowed out of their homes. We’d need to shut down government and hospitals and not allow anyone to get or be given food they didn’t already have in their homes. No one could walk outside.

That can’t be done.


3 posted on 05/15/2020 5:28:30 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Kaslin

Mission Success Trump flatten the curve on 86942 lives lost compare to over 2 Million predicted if the USA did not flatten the curve.


4 posted on 05/15/2020 5:28:42 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Kaslin

How about flattening the economy, flattening education etc.?


5 posted on 05/15/2020 5:28:47 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: 9YearLurker

It will spread like the flu...open up with no restrictions...

Lockdowns will never end with fifty dictatorships....


6 posted on 05/15/2020 5:29:56 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

That would be by far the best thing to do—with special resources offered for the vulnerable as needed.

But it is clear now that this was never really about the disease. And it is not nearly only about Trump—who is going along with all the essential elements anyway.


7 posted on 05/15/2020 5:37:45 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Socon-Econ

More like carpet-bomb the economy, planned years ago by air Marshalls Cloward and Piven.


8 posted on 05/15/2020 5:38:35 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (He, had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s Flattening Deplorables.


9 posted on 05/15/2020 5:39:47 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Kaslin

Flattening the curve is a euphemism glomed on by presstitutes and people who can’t comprehend what a curve actually is.


10 posted on 05/15/2020 5:42:11 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Kaslin

Hey mathematicians, help me here! It looks like the areas of both curves are the SAME! Am I right? Same number of deaths, but over a longer period of time. This is very important! It looks like they didn’t care about reducing the deaths, but only about not overwhelming hospitals. What do you think?


11 posted on 05/15/2020 5:56:43 AM PDT by I want the USA back (I fear my government more than the bug. I hate that which makes me afraid. And the media.)
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To: I want the USA back

That’s been the whole point all along. You’ll have the deaths - but the idea is not to overwhelm the hospitals or you would have had even more deaths.

Of course now the “flatten the curve” has become “we’ll open up when the ‘data’ says nobody else will ever get sick”.

“Oh - and if you don’t agree with that - you just don’t care about people and want them to DIE!!!”


12 posted on 05/15/2020 5:59:42 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: I want the USA back

By the way - many would classify me as a ‘Fearper’ based on my own personal precautions that I take.


13 posted on 05/15/2020 6:01:55 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: I want the USA back

You wasting your time trying to reason here. I hear you, it was about not overwhelming hospitals buying a little time to develop treatments and the long shot vaccine for this fall.


14 posted on 05/15/2020 6:03:05 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: epluribus_2
"More like carpet-bomb the economy,"

And the Constitution-turning states into totalitarian dictatorships.

15 posted on 05/15/2020 6:07:01 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: 21twelve

That’s been the whole point all along. You’ll have the deaths - but the idea is not to overwhelm the hospitals or you would have had even more deaths.
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The hospitals did not get overwhelmed because this disease does not require hospitalization for most victims, not because of the masks and social distancing. This is clear because nursing homes account for a large percentage of the deaths and many positive testers had light or no symptoms. To be fair to the “Fearpers,” the data bearing on lethality was hidden by the media.


16 posted on 05/15/2020 6:14:57 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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17 posted on 05/15/2020 6:35:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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That “Amazing economy” pic sure looks some Russian cities I’ve been too.


18 posted on 05/15/2020 6:38:25 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Kaslin

I just wish we could make citizens arrests on Democrat Governors.


19 posted on 05/15/2020 6:40:13 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: I want the USA back
Same number of deaths, but over a longer period of time.

We knew that from the beginning.
20 posted on 05/15/2020 6:51:19 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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