Posted on 05/08/2020 4:58:35 AM PDT by blam
German scientist, Professor Hendrik Streeck has been studying groups of subjects in his country and has reached a number of compelling provisional findings regarding the viral behaviour of the new Coronavirus.
Streeck also explains why he thinks that draconian ‘lockdown’ measures were decided in haste, and may ultimately be deemed to have been completely unnecessary.
He also presented data which gives an indication of an “Infected Fatality Rate” (IFR), eg. the percentage of people infected who will end up dying. New findings show a COVID-19 infection fatality rate of between 0.24 – 0.36% (as opposed to Neil Ferguson who claims the IFR to be just under 1%, perhaps 0.8-0.9%). Previous interviews with UnHerd, with experts like Johan Giesecke who believes the IFR is closer to 0.1%, or one in a thousand.
The difference between IFR is important, not least of all because this statistic will be used by governments to determine he relative severity of the threat in question. After UK ‘experts’ like Prof. Ferguson had massively overestimated the IFR, Boris Johnson’s government then switched course – away from a more common sense, science-based approach like Sweden, and instead implemented an experimental Medieval-style quarantine, or “lockdown” method, to try and contain the coronavirus. In the end, the UK policy turned out to be a disaster, leading to an unprecedented economic catastrophe as well as the highest COVID death totals in Europe.
UnHerd says:
“This may sound like splitting hairs — they are both under one percent after all — but in reality, the difference between these estimates changes everything. At the lower end, a much more laissez-faire policy becomes possible, and at 30,000 deaths it starts to look like the UK has already been through the worst of it; at the higher end, a policy of continued ultra-caution
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No sh*t, buckwheat.
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Who's we Kemosabee?
Who is we?
Gee whiz! Ya think?
The "Infected Fatality Rate" is an unknown number, and is not a number that is very much used in infectious disease tracking. How can we know what it is? The antibody tests are not very accurate. Given the data I've seen and what I know about antibody tests, it appears they are picking up the common cold along with Covid-19--which is skewing the numbers greatly, given how common the common cold is. And modeling is NOT an accurate measure of anything when all of the inputs are unknowns (or do you believe the modeling that predicts drastic "global warming"?).
Yes, the case fatality rate, the number that is based on actual measured data, is about 7%. Yes, this virus is as absolutely deadly as public health officials have said all along.
“COVID-19 Less Deadly Than We Thought”
Duh.
The disease was a very bad cold that exacerbated pre-existing conditions to the point of morbidity.
PANIC over the spread of the disease proved to be much more deadly than the disease itself. Like sending elderly patients who had been treated in the centers back to the nursing homes from which they came, before the danger was fully past. PANIC from enacting draconian measures that shut down so much of the commerce that GENERATES the revenue for which to pay for this sudden new burden on the medical services delivery system. PANIC that left so many homes in destitution, and caused any number of instances of mental stress to the point of physical harm to self and others. PANIC that turned criminals loose on the streets, while locking up otherwise law-abiding citizens for really minor infractions.
The misinformation spread early in the discovery of this disease, that it would cause “millions” of deaths in the US alone, generated this panic, and the doomsayers kept fanning the flames, even as the real dimensions of the spread and effects of the epidemic were being understood, but just as quickly, denied by persons in power who had just had a great consolidation of that power.
“New findings show a COVID-19 infection fatality rate of between 0.24 – 0.36%”
“Old findings” suggested, about 2 months ago, a fatality rate of 0.23%.
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3825559/posts?page=12#12
I know you just don’t like any rational data but the 7% number is just completely incorrect. You continue to show your lack of ability to do basic math or your willingness to be a sheeple and quote dubious or incorrect numbers
1. The average age of death in the United States is 75
2. The average age of death in PA is 79.6 which is exactly the national average
3. The German data are good and in consensus with increasing points of epidemiological data
Are you of the belief that we should live under totalitarian control and an economy operated by Fauci and Brix. Are you a patriot or a pansy. It’s crush time. Do you believe in freedom or are you going to sell your soul and the birthright of freedom for the most overhyped condition in the history of medicine
Besides the elderly, and those with compromised immune systems, its been learned that Covid-19 badly affects the brains of politicians. Causes madness and delusion.
And one more comment, because I do not think that people understand why it is so crucial to understand that Covid-19 is as deadly as the case numbers and death numbers tell us.
Right now, Covid-19 has only reached less than 1/2 of 1% of the population. In order to keep the number of infected low, people MUST understand that this thing is deadly. If they do not understand that, if they believe all of the highly dubious and scientifically unsupported claims that vast numbers of people have already had Covid-19 with no or mild symptoms, then they will not behave in ways that will prevent the virus from spreading.
TLDR version: either understand that this virus is deadly and take precautions to prevent it from becoming widespread, or keep believing that it’s nothing to worry about and help it to spread to tens of millions, resulting in millions of deaths.
You lost me.
If you are weak physically or mentally stay home and leave the people that want to live their life alone. You should also wear a mask under the covers.
The German case-to-death rate is totally out of whack with the rest of worlds numbers, by 3 fold. They must be treating early with HCQ or something.
He’s saying “Who cares, let the old folks die of it, it doesn’t effect me ...”
People who are at retirement age or older should consider not going to work and should self-isolate if they feel so inclined.
People who are too young to retire should go to work.
It’s a bold strategy, but it’s worked for over 100 years. We should re-institute this policy.
No, he’s not saying that. You are.
People who are at retirement age or older should consider not going to work and should self-isolate if they feel so inclined.
People who are too young to retire should go to work.
It’s a bold strategy, but it’s worked for over 100 years. We should re-institute this policy.
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Stay home if you want. Go to work if you want. But don’t force others to follow what you want to do.
It doesn't. If you're old and sickly then self quarantine. Stop ruining the lives of the other 99% of the population that will survive the virus, but not the lockdown with its resulting loss of Liberty, jobs, and as is already becoming apparent, food.
Sorry you're old. Life isn't fair. Quarantine your own ass, but stop killing everyone else with your selfishness.
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