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In new poll, 60 percent support keeping stay-at-home restrictions to fight coronavirus
NBC "News" / Comcast ^ | April 19, 2020 | By Mark Murray

Posted on 04/19/2020 7:12:14 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Meatspace

except fear and isolation. you refuse to admit the human cost of lockdown. Have a nice weekend


141 posted on 04/19/2020 8:40:47 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Meatspace
If a person has a health condition that requires medical treatment, there is not a single stay at home directive that prohibits them from seeking medical treatment.

Ummmm... you may want to check up on that. It's absolutely false.

142 posted on 04/19/2020 8:44:14 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Mom MD
First of all outside the medical profession very few know how to fit and use masks. Second it has been shown once masks are saturated with exhaled moisture (about 20 min) they lose any protective qualities they have. I think i as many people reach up and fiddle with the masks as keep their hands off their faces when they wear one but whatever. Like I said they get the sheeple to self identify"

I will fortunately count myself as one who knows how to properly don and doff a mask, attributable to working around and getting training from good Nurses much of the past 25 years.

Once the mask is on, I never adjust or otherwise touch the front or sides. I may adjust using ear loops.

If you come across detailed info about exhaled moisture and mask effectiveness, I would appreciate you passing along.

A good article on the subject:

"Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks in protecting health care workers from acute respiratory infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis"
- see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4868605/

I'm supportive of people wearing or not wearing masks if they make the decision based on good science, and a risk assessment of their individual situation.

143 posted on 04/19/2020 8:44:41 AM PDT by Fury
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To: SmokingJoe

Cite a stay at home directive that prohibits people from seeking medical treatment.


144 posted on 04/19/2020 8:46:02 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: wfu_deacons

I’m working and unaffected (by the grace of God). I want the lockdowns lifted yesterday.


145 posted on 04/19/2020 8:48:51 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: Jim Noble
A government that can give the banks $6 trillion with a keystroke can pay everyone’s mortgages for five years.

Five years huh?
Hey, why don't we all stay at home forever and let the government pay everyone’s mortgages for a 100 years?
Why stick at a mere 5 years?
Chuckle!

146 posted on 04/19/2020 8:49:35 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Meatspace
Oh that's easy. Have you looked closely at New York City's lockdown rules as it pertains to old folks who suffer cardiac arrest? There have been plenty pf posts about that on here going back weeks. Use the search button at the top.
147 posted on 04/19/2020 8:52:04 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
The main problem with the pandemic is this imo. The US was totally unprepared to fight the spread of SARS-CoV-2 with respect to being able to quickly test people for any stage of infection, people also having too much "Peter Pan" pride to wear appropriate masks because of an elitist “it can’t happen here" attitude.

Therefore, the states had no choice but to presume everybody “guilty” of having the virus and quarantine them to their homes. Doing so has undoubtedly saved many lives.

Note that people in some of the communities recently tested had developed SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, presumably through safe doses of community spread exposure to the virus, these people probably not aware that they had developed immunity to it in my non-medical opinion.

People need to be tested for antibodies before they get vaccinated so scientists can get the best data how the virus spreads to help avoid another pandemic / quarantine imo.

COVID-19 Antibody Seroprevalence in Santa Clara County, California

Corrections, insights welcome.

I’m optimistic about recovery not only because we learn from our mistakes, but PDJT has the uncommon common sense to deal with these things.

In fact, PDJT has already expressed that he looks forward to rebuilding FDA, CDC, medical support and drug manufacturing in US like he rebuilt the military.

Send "Orange Man Bad" federal and state government Democrats and RINOs home in November!

Supporting PDJT with a new patriot Congress and state government leaders that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA and stopping COVID-19 will effectively give fast-working Trump a third term in office imo.

MAGA, also KAGA! (Keep America Great Always!)

148 posted on 04/19/2020 9:02:52 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Government workers are not losing their jobs so they vote to keep the private sector on lockdown.


149 posted on 04/19/2020 9:04:03 AM PDT by carikadon (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did they ask anyone here this question on their “poll”? I think they just make all this s##t up. I’ve never been “polled” for anything in my life and I’m almost 70.


150 posted on 04/19/2020 9:04:17 AM PDT by Clarancebeaks
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Makes sense since at least 49% pay ZERO taxes and thus get Federal stimulus payments.


151 posted on 04/19/2020 9:07:38 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Fury

the. you are a rare individual. N95s are not the issue and no one should be wearing them at the store we need them in hospitals. The N95s i have seen on people in the store have not been properly fit or worn. If it makes people feel better to wear them OK but that’s all it does.


152 posted on 04/19/2020 9:08:49 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

Suppose half of people use the masks badly.

That is a lot better than zero percent wearing no masks.

The perfect is the enemy of the good—this is not complicated.


153 posted on 04/19/2020 9:13:32 AM PDT by cgbg (New poll: post elderly voters like Biden's experience as Wilson's VP fighting the Spanish Flu.)
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To: SmokingJoe

So such persons are not allowed to leave their homes for medical treatment?

We all understand that EMS has sometimes not been available, but have seen no rules that prohibits a person from leaving their home to seek emergency medical treatment.


154 posted on 04/19/2020 9:19:10 AM PDT by Meatspace
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To: cgbg

If it makes you feel better wear one Don’t force others to


155 posted on 04/19/2020 9:20:05 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

Agreed - no N95.


156 posted on 04/19/2020 9:20:09 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When ever the media begins to feel it is loosing its grip on the narrative, out pop the polls to tell us what to think.

In a free society, if 60% feared coming out in public, 60% could just stay home.

In a totalitarian society all it takes is a few fearful leaders for the guns to come out and new laws to be decreed for all.

Wisdom is not common, so a polls results are always unwise.


157 posted on 04/19/2020 9:21:06 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If 60% of the people want to stay-at-home,

THEN, STAY AT HOME...AND LEAVE ME THE HE!! ALONE.

First of all, I don’t believe this for a minute. But, if that is what all those people want, they probably are not essential, the 40% are probably the people who REALLY WORK, so stay home, wear your mask and let the rest of us maskless people FREE.


158 posted on 04/19/2020 9:22:43 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This smells of the “Wilder Effect.” When Doug Wilder, a Black man, was running for Governor of Virginia the first time the polls said he would win with a small but solid margin. He lost. The explanation was that respondents would not tell the truth because they did not want to be seen as unwilling to vote for a Black man. All polls save for one (maybe 5 or 6) taken before referendums on Gay rights showed they would pass. All except one lost. The “Wilder Effect,” was the explanation. People are still hesitant to tell pollsters they support opening state economies because they that means supporting Trump and it also opens them to criticism as “money over lives” people.This survey means nothing.


159 posted on 04/19/2020 9:23:11 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Fury
but at the very least train some people to not bring their hand to their mouth or nose

Having suffered from allergies for most of my life I eventually trained myself pretty well to keep my hands away from my face. Especially when I am out. Then my first action when getting home has been for a long time to wash hands thoroughly. In 2019 I got the flu for the first time in decades. Ironically, this one episode escalated into pneumonia and damn near killed me.

Someone on FR posted a piece which claimed the mask is more effective for Asians because they have a slightly different shaped nose bridge & the mask fits better. Either way, I am skeptical of the benefits of mask use for the general public in basic activities.

160 posted on 04/19/2020 9:23:18 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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