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Shutdown until Vaccine? Nonsense!
April 17, 2020 | Self

Posted on 04/17/2020 7:30:53 AM PDT by HonorInPa

Once upon a time we lived in a country where people knew there were risks to living. That was before the rise of the federal agencies striving to eliminate all chance of sickness or death.

Why should we remain closed until a vaccine is developed? It took 30 years from the development of the Polio vaccine and mass public inoculations, to eliminate polio in the US.

Vaccines for chickenpox, measles (both kinds), mumps, whooping cough, scarlet fever, etc. didn't exist until most of us were well into adulthood and had suffered through each (except scarlet fever). 57,000 people in the world died of measles in 2018 even though there is a vaccine.

We still don't have a vaccine for HIV/AIDS. 700,000 Americans have died from HIV/AIDS since 1981.

We didn't shut down for any of these. We identified behaviors that added to risk, we minimized contact with people who were sick, we isolated the vulnerable.

We certainly did NOT shut down the entire economy based on a pipe dream of protecting everyone, no matter the cost.


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1 posted on 04/17/2020 7:30:53 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: HonorInPa

If we had, we wouldn’t be here now - there wouldn’t be a country!


2 posted on 04/17/2020 7:33:05 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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3 posted on 04/17/2020 7:33:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: HonorInPa
David Bowie - Heroes
4 posted on 04/17/2020 7:33:38 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: HonorInPa
Don't worry about a "vaccine".

1-It may never come.

2-It may not be a "vaccine" just like the "Flu Vaccine" is NOT a "vaccine".

3-We need TESTING and wide availability of TREATMENT, like HCQ.

4-If we wait 12-18 months for a "vaccine" it will be too late to save the U.S. and global economy.

5 posted on 04/17/2020 7:33:51 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: HonorInPa
We certainly did NOT shut down the entire economy based on a pipe dream of protecting everyone, no matter the cost.

HEAR, HEAR!

6 posted on 04/17/2020 7:35:24 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: HonorInPa

Don’t think hardly anyone is talking about shutting down until there is a vaccine.

We might not get fully back to normal until there is a vaccine.


7 posted on 04/17/2020 7:35:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: HonorInPa

Over 40 years HIV has killed 1400 a month.

Coved is killing more every day.

Yeah we can’t lock down till we get a vaccine.

But don’t kid yourself about the toll it’s going to take.


8 posted on 04/17/2020 7:36:19 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: HonorInPa

We’re at war and we haven’t fully realized it yet.
Before the end of 2020 China will have firmly established pariah-state status. They won’t take kindly to it.


9 posted on 04/17/2020 7:36:25 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: HonorInPa

Shutdown until we have decent testing in place like all the other countries? Not nonsense.


10 posted on 04/17/2020 7:36:30 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: HonorInPa

I was for the shut-down back in early March, when it appeared that there would be spikes of people needing hospital beds and ventilators that far exceeded capacity.

I am long since past that opinion, not only because I think the shut-downs helped to soften the spikes, but also because it was obvious the estimates and models were far too severe.

But as happens with a lot of people in government and particularly in bureaucracies, decision making is habitual.

A lot of these people forgot the whole reason this thing looked scarey in the first place. It is not the amount of cases that matter (in terms of shut-downs), it’s the amount of people who would have needed hospital beds


11 posted on 04/17/2020 7:37:28 AM PDT by z3n
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To: G Larry

The flu is caused by many viral strains, therefore the annual one doesn’t work against every single one of them, it’s actual a gamble by the professionals in hopes that the strains they estimate to be most common are protected against. No amount of flu shots convinces me not to be cautious, especially in indoor public areas like the mall or store.


12 posted on 04/17/2020 7:37:30 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: DannyTN

You are correct. It’s a classic straw man argument.

“This thing no one is saying is a TERRIBLE idea!!”


13 posted on 04/17/2020 7:37:32 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: DannyTN

Fauci was on TV saying no concerts, sporting events, bars, limited restaurants, etc. That is no where near normal.


14 posted on 04/17/2020 7:37:36 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: Kozak

HIV isn’t airborne. HIV doesn’t live outside the human body on surfaces for very long either. Both the Flu and COVID-19 do. There aren’t very many practical ways to totally avoid the thing.


15 posted on 04/17/2020 7:40:57 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: HonorInPa

You have to decide how many people you are willing to have die before measures were put in place again to bring down the number of deaths.

That’s certainly something government leaders are dealing with at this time - how many should die if things keep going the way they are. i.e. what further loss of life is acceptable.


16 posted on 04/17/2020 7:43:45 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: DannyTN

And even when there is a vaccine, like the influenza, thousands will die from coronavirus...hey but it only cost us upwards of 10 Trillion Dollars..or almost half of our present debt.
Something to feel all warm and fuzzy about.


17 posted on 04/17/2020 7:44:31 AM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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To: DannyTN

And even when there is a vaccine, like the influenza, thousands will die from coronavirus EVERY YEAR anyhow.


18 posted on 04/17/2020 7:45:46 AM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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To: HonorInPa

#OUAN Open up America Now!!


19 posted on 04/17/2020 7:49:05 AM PDT by dhuls (better late than never)
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To: Leep

We don’t know that COVID-19 will play out like the flu, with the flu having so many different viruses causing it. But the key is that most diseases become less fatal in an overall population when there is some form of exposure to the germs in most of the population, whether that includes a vaccine, or recovery from the disease itself. With no exposure, a disease is much more lethal than when most people have exposure.


20 posted on 04/17/2020 7:58:38 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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