Posted on 04/15/2020 9:18:27 AM PDT by rintintin
Universal testing for COVID-19 would be the best way to get the U.S. economy back up and running, St. Louis Federal Reserve Bank President James Bullard said Tuesday.
Bullard, speaking on a conference call organized by the St. Louis Regional Chamber, said closing nonessential businesses “is appropriate for now but it’s a crazy inefficient policy. You don’t really want to go back to this quarantine policy in the future if you don’t have to.”
He said that after coronavirus infection numbers start to drop, but without a vaccine available, the nation’s goal should be to get healthy workers back on the job while keeping the public safe.
“Widespread testing of everybody in the economy would put an end to this crisis,” Bullard added. “We can’t get there right now but this is costing us $25 billion a day.”
His comments come as President Donald Trump and several governors have formed task forces to talk about restarting the economy. So far, though, states don’t even have enough tests for people with known exposure to the coronavirus, let alone enough to test all workers.
Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., told the Chamber last week that antibody tests, which determine if individuals have recovered from the new coronavirus strain, should be available for some by the end of the month and more widely by the end of the summer.
Bullard compared the task of producing hundreds of millions of test kits with the process of mobilizing the economy for war. “At these kinds of numbers you really want to ramp that up at all costs,” he said. “All businesses need these tests, households need these tests, schools need these tests. Everyone needs them because they need to know where the virus is to manage this going forward.”
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Grocery stores would be considered essential services and probably prohibited from excluding untested people. It would be feasible and probable that the county health department could limit dine in access to restaurants to only tested immunes, same for music venues, bars the health department sets occupancy guidelines and almost certainly has the legal authority to do so as long as a declaration of public health emergency is in effect. No state supreme court will want to get involved with a case of actively putting citizens at risk.
I would say Germany is doing well with mass testing, since they have great companies like Roche leading the way.
Don’t know much about CDC but FDA that you are bashing has definitely turned... many of my colleagues who work in clinical labs have never seen the FDA so responsive and quick before (it takes a long time to get a test approved).
I know you’re triggered - I’ll let you go. I do believe widespread access to testing for the chinese virus and influenza is important.
Are they going to shut down all INCOMING persons from other countries???
Those people are NOT getting tested-—so what would this achieve unless it is a BACK DOOR to getting all your health info & using it against you with Universal Health???
Widespread testing, yes.
First responders, healthcare workers, people working in nursing homes, workers in meat packing plants and factories forced to work in close quarters, all should probably get tested. Plus they need to do a large enough representative sample of antibody testing to prove once and for all that the original models were crap.
If you know people in the clinical lab business then you know that testing all 350 million people in this country is logistically impossible.
ScoobyDoo or whatever his screen name is can’t even get half the people on this thread to go along with his idea, and he thinks he can force 350 million to get tested, most of them involuntarily. Good luck with that.
Only for you :)
This isn’t a quarantine. It’s an unconstitutional and heavy-handed lockdown. Quarantines isolate sick persons (or animals) or those who’ve been exposed to a contagious disease.
Tell me this guy is a Dem?
I am really sick and tired of “hunkering down”. I am ready to just go on with my life and take reasonable precautions that don’t include wearing a stupid mask everywhere I go. If someone sitting 30 feet away from me while I sit on the beach is enough to infect me, then we are all doomed to get it anyway.
Lets just get it over. I am at high risk, but I am also at high risk for the flu which I don’t think I have ever gotten in my life. Maybe when I was a kid. I’ve had a couple of bad colds in the last 20 years.
The states are going to run out of money in the next 30 days unless they ease these draconian restrictions on staying home and delaying the inevitable. Everyone is going to get exposed. I suspect everyone has already been exposed. Certainly anyone who has been on a subway or train or airplane or cruise line has been exposed.
If you don’t have it by now, you probably aren’t going to get it. It’s been circulating at least since November and a lot of the people who had the flu, probably had this and didn’t even know it.
These draconian shut down laws are not going to help. If anything they are just prolonging the pain. In our county the meeting limit is 2 people. They also have an app to report violators. This is really Mark of the Beast stuff.
If this is not the beginning of the end, it is the precursor to the beginning of the end.
If Bill Gates mandatory vaccine and tracking device implant ideas are implemented, then you can’t go into a store or return to work without documentation that you have received the vaccine and most likely that you have some tracking device implanted in your skin so they can track your movements.
What this crisis has shown me is that there are a lot of people out there that are more than willing to surrender all their liberty for a chance at some temporary safety.
It’s pretty scary. A lot more scary than facing some virus. I lived through measles epidemics and polio epidemics and grew up at the end of the smallpox threat.
This virus is a lot less scary than any of those diseases, but the reaction and proposed solutions are a lot more scary than the problem.
/rant
I like your idea and we pay for them to stay isolated until the wave is over while the rest of us work.
Quarantine is for actively sick people and those exposed to them. Medical isolation is the restriction of movement of non infected persons. The supreme court has upheld both in our country history as constitutional. People still cannot grasp the significance legally of the national emergency declaration that one act empowers the federal and state / local governments with near plenary powers. We are legally one small step from full martial law where all rights are suspended. Potus doesn’t seem to be inclined to use the martial law powers for now. The governors are the most powerful people in their state and unless a state has recall provisions they are in for their full terms.
Even better if you feel sick stay home.
“With common sense.”
Ha, “Papers please.”
“He’s merely promoting the policy that Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea have followed to isolate people with the virus...”
Problem HERE is: African Americans are harder hit, so this policy is racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, Transphobic and Denialist.
Only people who will be tested are Trump supporters, and that will be mandatory.
We seldom eat out, I didn’t grocery shop too much before the lockdown—we did curbside pickup& now I shop more than ever trying to fill a list. We don’t do bars, sports events, seldom to never music events. I intend to live my life and I won’t go for universal testing.
I suppose they can jail me whilst they let thieves,druggies and the homeless do as they please. They let illegals flood the border. Is this a free country or isn’t it? Free for the select? phew!
They can kiss my ***.
No, it’s what they’re doing in Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore to KEEP THEIR ECONOMIES OPEN. Everybody gets tested, and those who test positive stay home for two weeks. Everybody else keeps going to work.
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Hmmm...and, ALL three of the countries that you listed ALSO use a COVID-19 phone tracking app, on their subjects, er, citizens.
Are you good with being/having your employees submitting to being tracked, too?
You never mentioned what biz you own, where you will be requiring this mandatory testing, for all of your employees. Or, I may have missed that.
What is the false positive rate of the tests? Is it ok to exclude someone because they are a false positive?”
I don’t know. Trump and Fauci and Birx keep talking about the vaccine - 18 months or more away. Will it work 100 percent?
“The vaccine will absolutely not work 100% The seasonal flu vaccine is between 19 and 60% effective:”
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The 2018 flu season resulted in 80,000 American flu deaths even after the vaccinations. The funny thing is that we didn’t shut down the economy then. I guess we didn’t know any better. ;-)
Like I was saying about pestilence. And the roaring of the sea causing heart failure. Signs in the Sun, Moon, & Stars?
In any case, when we became Christians, we were among those saying that this was the generation.
It looks like we could have right.
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