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Yes, granted the DM; so, take this news with a grain of salt. Yet, yet we know this is going to be the direction of CV media coverage. Seemingly every other aspect has been exhausted, so now it's time to begin examining what happened and how we got to our present state.
1 posted on 04/10/2020 7:32:03 AM PDT by semantic
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To: impimp; cgbg; abb; proust
1000s of people were coming/go out of LAX, SJC & SFO 24/7 up until 1/31. My sister was a missionary in SE China (below Wuhan) and could fly r/t for $350 to visit our parents in Santa Clara. I'm not kidding when I say she visited them more from China than when she was in TX. (She was one of the first flights out and had to do 14 day quarantine.)

There is no logical way that CV wasn't in Calif literally 24 hrs after it showed up in Hubei back in the fall. That's why everyone was sick this winter with the non-flu; don't worry that it knocked people (such as myself) out.

Then we start seeing the slow reveal that the vast majority of CV fatalities are at risk elderly & co-morbids (hence the disproportionate AA numbers), while young and normal healthy are a-ok.

And then the grand finale, we discover fed funds are being directed to HC providers for reimbursements if CV is noted. Not the cause of death, but just the mere presence of CV alone.

2 posted on 04/10/2020 7:34:13 AM PDT by semantic
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To: semantic

“may”

15% may?

That’s Herd immunity?

Gosh, the stupidity makes you marvel.


4 posted on 04/10/2020 7:39:38 AM PDT by romanesq (8Chan & its child porn are kaput & all the crap with it. Trump-Pence 2020! Magacoalition.com)
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To: semantic

Of course, there are other articles which hint that immunity may last less than a year. So, it’s barely immunity at all. And, likewise, a vaccine may not succeed if anti-bodies in effect get flushed out of your system after a few months.

If herd immunity isn’t possible, then I don’t know what we do. But I do know that shutting down the economy is no solution.


6 posted on 04/10/2020 7:42:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: semantic

No such thing has herd immunity. It is only a lack of exposure.


10 posted on 04/10/2020 7:48:23 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: semantic

Okay, but they tested the city dubbed “German wuhan”. Which mean this city is not representative of the rest of Germany.

And if this study holds up, it still means its 4 times more lethal than the flu. And 4 times as many people have to get it in that city before herd immunity is reached.


16 posted on 04/10/2020 8:13:16 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: semantic

I believe testing will show that millions of Americans have been exposed to the COV. It’s everywhere, Montana, North Dakota, and Crook County Wyoming (population, one person every 2.5 sq.mi.)

The NYT posts a map daily showing the confirmed cases.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200405&instance_id=17362&nl=morning-briefing&regi_id=110407374&segment_id=23916&te=1&user_id=e65c2761050d6694db21f0dac9bb2fb2#map

Anecdotally, a friend of mine came back to Texas from Maryland in late December with a severe respiratory infection lasting two weeks. He tested negative for the flu. My son, on a military base, had the worst flu like symptoms he’s ever had lasting a week, six weeks ago.


20 posted on 04/10/2020 8:22:36 AM PDT by calico_thompson (Vanity sarcasm)
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To: semantic

You need about 80% infected to reach herd immunity so not even close.


33 posted on 04/10/2020 9:57:58 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: semantic

My view on the fastest, yet safest, way to achieve herd immunity (based on the assumption that the HCQ/zinc/azithromycin combination works, especially when given prior to needing hospitalization):

Build a sufficient stock of all three drugs, particularly the first two, at all pharmacies and doctor’s offices and then reopen the country, except for nursing homes and similar facilities.

Give treating doctors and other healthcare workers prophylactic doses of HCQ and zinc and then have them treat any patients with symptoms almost exactly as Dr. Zelenko is doing. That is, don’t treat the healthy with mild symptoms. Send them home with a prescription to be used if their symptoms worsen, perhaps, but let them get over the disease without treatment so they build immunity.

If the drug combination works as many doctors now claim, the country can return to normal and in relatively short order we would have both herd immunity and a restored economy. This would be the fastest, and most cost effective, way to proceed, and we could do it in a matter of a week, or two at most.

Trump’s job should be to get the drugs distributed and then reduce federal restrictions. Let the governors each decide whether to sign on. Those that do will, in my opinion anyway, be rewarded by their constituents. Those that don’t will soon change their minds if they see it working elsewhere.


38 posted on 04/10/2020 1:30:59 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: semantic

This synopsis agrees with the original article in German, except that the virologists 1) say nothing about herd immunity, and 2) propose a four-step easing of the current shutdown (but nothing about how to know when to start easing).


41 posted on 04/10/2020 2:19:58 PM PDT by Chaguito
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