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Perhaps we should do is follow the South Korean example.
1 posted on 04/05/2020 4:32:55 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The time to do this was weeks ago. It’s probably too late now. I suspect as many as half the business establishments in the U.S. restaurant industry won’t even open again.

Many other businesses are now at the point where they may as well stay closed “for the protection of our customers and workers” to hide the fact that they wont have any customers if they open tomorrow anyway. I’ll give the entire U.S. auto industry as a perfect example.

2 posted on 04/05/2020 4:39:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.)
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The clock is ticking. In yesterday’s presser Trump seemed to get it, Pence seemed to get it, and even Fauci seemed to acknowledge it.

Dr. Tony has been given 30 days to mitigate. After that America opens for business and whatever happens happens.


3 posted on 04/05/2020 4:42:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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That boat sailed in January.


4 posted on 04/05/2020 4:45:19 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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Bttt


6 posted on 04/05/2020 4:48:40 AM PDT by Guenevere (Press On!)
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I agree, open it up and let the chips fall where they may......People are getting desperate, people are getting frustrated, people are getting pissed off.....

I did something out of character for me yesterday at my local Meijer store. I was in the 20 items or less self check out lane watching a gal two people ahead of me with a FULL shopping cart. When it came time for me to move to one of the scanners, I asked the Meijer employee monitoring the lanes why she didn't tell the lady with the full cart to go to the proper check out lanes. The employee told me she wasn't allowed to.

So after I checked out my few items, I went back to the girl who was still checking out her items and told her she shouldn't be in that lane and pointed out the 20 item limit sign. All she said was I'm sorry.........I said you're not sorry, you are rude and you did it on purpose. Then I shook my head and walked away.......

7 posted on 04/05/2020 4:49:45 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (How did I survive the Swine flu and the killer flu of 2017-18 without govt. help?)
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Open up everything next week. Order all health care providers to treat coronavirus, hell, everyone with Hydroxychloroquine; assuming we have enough. We can’t let this country go down the tubes as the demonrats want.


9 posted on 04/05/2020 4:53:03 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Those who give up some freedom for some liberty deserve neither.)
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Perhaps it’s time to face the fact that Ben Franklin’s observation about the impossibility of purchasing security by removing freedom is as true today as it was in the 18th Century. Risk cannot be removed from life, it can only be mitigated at a certain cost. It’s now time to realize the cost is about to overwhelm the ability of the economy to recover.

As far as where the line of “reasonable restrictions” should be drawn, social distancing as a sensible suggestion by health officials is about as far as I believe it should go. Each individual can make decisions on mask-wearing or staying secluded due to personal health risks. This whole matter has allowed a crop of petty tyrants to erupt like crabgrass in a spring lawn. Each town mayor, county executive, and governor should be made to reflect on their actions that have removed livelihoods and collapsed their tax base.


11 posted on 04/05/2020 4:56:11 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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The caveat should be if you choose to not quarantine at home then if you get sick you cannot uses any healthcare resources such as an ICU room or ventilator because the whole purpose of isolation is to keep the number of infection low enough so that those who are truly innocent can have access to life saving care. If greedy self centered people want to risk their lives fine but they get zero access thus they cannot take resources away from someone who did not be a selfish a$$hole. This would be easy to implement track the cellphones and toll tags if the person was not at home for extended periods of time the obviously they broke quarantine. Harsh but effective.

Now stay home don’t make the national guard force you too, I have zero desire to be recalled and have to police up the idiots but will with ruthless efficiency as will my troopers who will follow my orders to do so. We did in Kosovo, and a host of other places they will follow orders here given by a lawfully elected officials none of which is unconstitutional in a time of national emergency. The Supremes won’t even get involved this was decided over a hundred years ago the precedence is already set.


12 posted on 04/05/2020 4:56:40 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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This is spot on.


13 posted on 04/05/2020 4:58:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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The current situation cannot continue. The engine that drives prosperity, productivity, has been killed. Many businesses will fold. Contrary to what the left thinks, businesses don’t have infinite money. There must be sale of product.

When you see that no money is coming in, but the expenses continue, and the taxes will have to be paid, you realize that it will be months or years before you can once again on the positive side, assuming that you can open this summer, and so you close everything.

Knowing when to hold and when to fold is essential.

The government has NO resources, and it is insane to think that the government can pay everyone not to work indefinitely. It has already committed to deficit spending that will hurt us bad, assuming there is a recovery someday.


15 posted on 04/05/2020 5:00:19 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is acting full-on as the Democratic Party's press agency now: Robert Spencer)
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There is no more time for debate. There is no more room for caution.

Fine. I have a lot of employees out sick, maybe you could come up to one of my negative pressure zones and wash up some patients - they get sweaty on the ventilators. But bring your own PPE, we can't spare any for you.

32 posted on 04/05/2020 5:15:43 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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Hear hear! I agree with every word he said. The sooner we get America moving again, the better.


33 posted on 04/05/2020 5:16:06 AM PDT by LateBoomer
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I’ve been crunching available comparative stats up, down and sideways for almost a month now. The stats coming out of Korea are clearly the most definitive to date; stats from China are junk; CDC has decentralized statistical tracking since labs throughout the states have stood up testing; and stats coming out of Europe are all over the place. I’m sure you’ve read the stories about Italy and their testing/tracking data.

Consider:

Number of pneumonia and flu-related deaths in the US since Week 40, 2019 - the “official” beginning of the 2019/2020 flu season: 88,902 (There’s a reason CDC tracks and associates flu and pneumonia; the relationship between flu and pneumonia has been acknowledged and studied since the 40’s, but the relationship is difficult to quantify since tracking is decentralized and reporting standards are inconsistent.) Annual infection rates of influenza are believed to be between 8 and 10 percent, based on hospital and outpatient visits.

Number of pneumonia and flu-related deaths in the US since Week 3, 2020 (When COVID-19 was first identified in the US): 39,212

Number of COVID-19-related deaths in the US since Week 3, 2020: ~8,800

Number of worldwide COVID-19-related deaths to date: 47,245 (Some believe that China’s statistics are understated)

South Korea (as of 4/3/2020):
Total Tested: 443,273
Total Positive: 10,062 (2.2%)
Total Negative: 414,303 (93,5%)
Number of Deaths: 174 (1.7% - 174/10062)
Active: 3,867
Recovered: 6,021 (~60%)

...and draw your own conclusions.


35 posted on 04/05/2020 5:16:43 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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Another Great Depression will destroy this great nation

Really? Why?

And is a nation "great" if it can be destroyed so easily? Is it even a nation?

36 posted on 04/05/2020 5:16:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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Coming soon:

Kill the old people, kill the crazy Docs too!!

43 posted on 04/05/2020 5:24:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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If people are worried about the potential for virus induced deaths, just wait till they get a load of Great Depression II induced deaths followed by Civil War II deaths. At this point it will be a miracle if we can avoid either.


44 posted on 04/05/2020 5:25:09 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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“Mr. President, do you understand how many suicides of prominent business owners are going to start piling up?”

Root should have gone in to more detail and taken it beyond suicides of “prominent business owners”. The man in Vegas killed himself. What about the employees he had to let go? How many of them will die as a result of suicide, domestic abuse, or lack of medical care because they can’t afford it?


46 posted on 04/05/2020 5:28:51 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ( For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.)
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Agree the country needs to open back up and whatever happens happens.

Businesses are going to fail and that’s a given but suicide iss the result of an underlying psychological illness.


53 posted on 04/05/2020 5:40:54 AM PDT by maddog55
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People will starve to death if they don’t eat, that is why grocery stores are open. Everything else is closed because self-centered idiots refuse to follow the rules, and some purposefully sneeze and cough just to act defiantly..


55 posted on 04/05/2020 5:48:49 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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We do what can be REASONABLY done to keep people alive.
We are not being reasonable in my not so humble opinion.
At some point nature should be allowed to takes over.

Unlike the party of death. Who play God. They literally murder many before they are born..even some as they are being born.
They would euthanize the old. In some cases, that could mean anyone over 60.
Yet, now we are suppose to pretend they are concerned about a few thousand mostly old people?
No, they are concerned about doing whatever they can to make look Trump look bad.
Do we really need anymore evidence?
Interesting that their candidate for President would otherwise be a prime example of a elderly person that should be Euthanized. He has lost his wits. He is no longer of any use.
Except he is the only chance they have to beat Trump.
Anyhow, i have said from early on. Not sure why we can’t use the same precautions we are using now in the work environment.
Doesn’t make sense we can go to the grocery store but not to work?


56 posted on 04/05/2020 5:53:13 AM PDT by Leep (It's another day in stir.)
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