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To: Bob434

You are missing the point. I was asking where you got the 100% efficacy for hydroxychloroquine. the answer is you did t there is no study that exists that shows 100% efficacy. I did not say it shouldn’t be used.


144 posted on 03/31/2020 11:11:38 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

[[the answer is you did t there is no study that exists that shows 100% efficacy.]]

The claim i n the study was that it was 100% effective- no deaths when given the drugs- in all those patients- As i told the other fella I’m looking for the article now- it wasn’t a clinical trial i don’t beleive-


149 posted on 03/31/2020 11:24:04 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Mom MD

havign trouble finding it- shoudla bookmarked it-

Here’s one where 36 who had the virus were tested after being given the drugs and 100% showed no signs of covid after 6 days- i don’t thin it was a clinical trial- just a a study- and they don’t say how sick the patients were or if they had preexistign conditions or not-

This past week, a note of optimism penetrated the accumulating bad news. Doctors testing the drug hydroxychloroquine—brand name Plaquenil—on patients with Covid-19 have seen remarkable results. Half the patients tested negative after only three days on the medication, and by day six, that number had increased to 70 percent. Even better, 100 percent of patients given both hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin (commonly known as Zithromax, or the Z-pak) tested negative after six days.

https://www.city-journal.org/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine


150 posted on 03/31/2020 11:31:18 AM PDT by Bob434
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Here is the 80 patients clinical trial one from france: BREAKING: New controlled clinical study conducted by doctors ​in France shows that a combo of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin (Z-Pak) cures 100% of coronavirus patients within 6 days of treatment (covidtrial.io) https://techstartups.com/2020/03/18/breaking-controlled-clinical-study-conducted-doctors-%E2%80%8Bin-france-shows-hydroxychloroquine-cures-100-coronavirus-patients-within-6-days-treatment-covidtrial-io/
151 posted on 03/31/2020 11:33:11 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Mom MD

ok i found it- it was the doc in NY- it was a study- not a clinical trial- and all the folks had covid accordign to the aeticle

“Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak”

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3829531/posts

Again, not a clinical trial- but as i said studies are showing 100% effective or over 90% effective- one small clinical trial i France found 100% effective-

We also will have NY’s results next week i believe- and likely other results from all over the world- We’ll see howe they fare out-

I did run across one that claimed there was no effectiveness on a forbes site- but that one runs counter to all I’ve read on it since-


153 posted on 03/31/2020 11:41:32 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Mom MD
I'm going through all your post to find what you're giving your patients.
You said, "we are using hydroxychloroquine and zmax sometimes vitamin c as well"

This isn't a study though Dr. Vladimir Zelenko with 700 patients with one fatality (April 3rd was the last update)
He suggests zinc is important.
https://techstartups.com/2020/04/03/updates-from-dr-vladimir-zelenko-now-treated-700-coronavirus-patients-with-99-9-success-rate-using-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-sulfate-and-z-pak-1-outpatient-died-after-not-following-protocol-exclusi/

This is this is preventative by Dr Lise Alschuler that is all over the counter. Base on Quercetin, zinc.
https://integrativemedicine.arizona.edu/file/72354/Integrative+Considerations+during+the+COVID+3.18.20.pdf

Personally I don't understand why Ascorbic Acid isn't given intravenously. Because SARS-Cov-2 attack the beta chain of Hemoglobin. Unstable hemoglobin creates heme cells that destroy nitric Oxide.

Viroprotein Orf3a attack the heme oxidizing the Iron in the beta chain and replace the iron. The heme can't carry oxygen without the Iron. Which also creates fibromyalgia and liver damage because of the high level of ferritin from the oxidized Iron.
Which is why hydroxychloroquine should work because it binds to the hemoglobin and neutralizes (alkaline) the Iron free heme. Macrophages require tons of asorbic acid to generate Nitric oxide which they used to create their oxidative burst.

COVID-19: Attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism
https://ravikollimd.com/resources/COVID/COVID-19__Attacks_the_1-Beta_Chain_of_Hemoglobin_and_Captures_the_Porphyrin_to_Inhibit_Human_Heme_Metabolism_v5.pdf

Thank you and good luck

178 posted on 04/10/2020 1:24:34 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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