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Masks, Masks, Where Are the Masks?
Frontpage ^ | March 25 2020 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 03/28/2020 12:59:13 PM PDT by rintintin

The media is full of stories of mask rationing and shortages. Health care professionals are reusing masks, slathering them with sanitizer, or substituting scarves in place of surgical masks. Democrats demand that President Trump make more masks immediately using the Wartime Production Act.

But why aren’t there any masks?

Surgical masks, like anything in the medical field, are tightly regulated. You can’t just make a mask. Some masks have to be certified by the FDA and others by the CDC. Some are certified by both the FDA and the CDC.

Until recently, the public had no problem buying N95 respirators for use in construction. These masks are certified by the CDC. Why is the CDC in the business of certifying industrial masks, you may wonder? Because, as discussed previously, the CDC does every possible thing except what people think it does. The component of the CDC that does this is the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health.

NIOSH is not to be confused with OSHA, even though they were created at the same time, through the same law, and serve a very similar function: making this another skein in the infinitely tangled web of the federal bureaucracy.

The Open PPE Project launched an effort to quickly create N95 masks only to be told by NIOSH that approving a new mask production facility would take between 45 and 90 days.

Meanwhile there are reports of large stockpiles of masks sitting around waiting for an FDA inspector.

The United States government has a stockpile of 12 million NIOSH approved masks and 5 million that are expired, and are therefore not approved by NIOSH. Except it may approve some conditionally for use.

The FDA and CDC bureaucracy are not up to speed with the current crisis.

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To: kaehurowing

Did you wear goggles? Because, in a hot area, it gets in your eyes.

Just saying...


41 posted on 03/28/2020 2:24:51 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: rintintin

And remember that masks are all the rage. They’re in style!


42 posted on 03/28/2020 2:26:53 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Flaming Conservative

I am still waiting to see if someone uses a jock strap over their face.


43 posted on 03/28/2020 2:27:15 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: tomkat

Having been a cabinetmaker before retiring, I have one of these and a jillion filters out in the shop.
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Funny that you’d post that as I just sent off pictures to a bunch of health care workers in my family of something similar when they were telling me about the N95 mask shortages. I told them that they should see what I have wear when I go on to plenty of different kinds of industry jobsites and am exposed to who knows what. Told them to get their butts down an industrial supply house and get properly fit tested with something that is in the 99.97% effective range or above.

Basically, the question I asked them was this..... On what grounds do they believe that an N95 mask is adequate? Let me be specific…. The 95 number means that it is 95% effective. On what grounds is such a low value acceptable? In other words, if a doctor sees 100 infected patients, wearing a 95 grade mask, that’s no better than seeing 95 patients with a guaranteed 100% total protection and 5 patients with no mask at all. It’s somewhat shocking that such a low grade filter is supposed to be acceptable… not only will the paper filter allow all kinds of small things pass through, they are not sealed around the face and thus there is a direct short circuit that bypasses the filter part of the mask. Is it any wonder that a vast number of health care workers get infected themselves? The stats from Italy are abysmal.

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/personal-protective-equipment-infection-control/n95-respirators-and-surgical-masks-face-masks I found this piece that explains the problem…..and this article from the FDA makes reference to having received this information from the CDC…. Here’s the quote from this piece to make the point.....

>>>>If worn properly, a surgical mask is meant to help block large-particle droplets, splashes, sprays, or splatter that may contain germs (viruses and bacteria), keeping it from reaching your mouth and nose. Surgical masks may also help reduce exposure of your saliva and respiratory secretions to others.

While a surgical mask may be effective in blocking splashes and large-particle droplets, a face mask, by design, does not filter or block very small particles in the air that may be transmitted by coughs, sneezes, or certain medical procedures. Surgical masks also do not provide complete protection from germs and other contaminants because of the loose fit between the surface of the face mask and your face.<<<<<<


44 posted on 03/28/2020 2:31:09 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: rintintin

There’s a video making the rounds of an Asia Sun-Continent “factory” hand making surgical masks.


45 posted on 03/28/2020 2:44:13 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: billyboy15

“Show your stats regarding deaths caused by China virus ONLY and not deaths “associated” with the virus.”

I don’t answer stupid, irrelevant questions.


46 posted on 03/28/2020 2:57:41 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: rintintin

The Purple People Beaters, aka The SEIU, was hiding 34 million masks.


47 posted on 03/28/2020 3:03:34 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (MAGA)
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To: Vermont Lt

Glasses are effective.


48 posted on 03/28/2020 3:09:08 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Vermont Lt

That’s a wonderful talking point — for the DNC.

The President is the CEO of an organization with about 2.5 million employees. He cannot micromanage all of them. The bureaucracy is responsible for passing information up the line — the CEO then issues directives, based on that information; and the bureaucracy then carries it out.

It seems that Pres. Trump was relying on the advice of the very same bureaucrats that originally advised Obama to not replenish stockpiles.

Trump’s responsibility began, at the point where the problems were brought to his attention. He’s done way more than most could have to fix things since.


49 posted on 03/28/2020 3:11:32 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Oh, we are ignoring the mistakes of the Trump Administration?

Fool like you is how we get shitty government.


50 posted on 03/28/2020 3:15:02 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (.)
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To: rintintin

51 posted on 03/28/2020 3:15:49 PM PDT by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: Vermont Lt

On the effectiveness of masks and glasses:

https://youtu.be/gAk7aX5hksU?t=900

(S. Korea’s top expert on COVID-19)


52 posted on 03/28/2020 3:15:52 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

Not really. Not if the virus is aerosoled. It is floating in the air for some time. It will sneak right around those glasses.

They might be effective in a chemistry lab, but not in an isolation room.

Good try.


53 posted on 03/28/2020 3:16:30 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (.)
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To: kaehurowing

Yes, if someone coughs on you. But not if you are in a room teeming with it.


54 posted on 03/28/2020 3:17:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (.)
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To: Vermont Lt

see my link.


55 posted on 03/28/2020 3:17:51 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: rintintin

“Expired” masks?? Wow


56 posted on 03/28/2020 3:18:25 PM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: Deaf Smith

I saw some click bait about masks, and it looked like the girl in the ad had a mask made out of a pair of bikini underwear.


57 posted on 03/28/2020 3:19:10 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: rintintin
...You can’t just make a mask...

Sure I can.

When I started to setup a manual milling machine in order to show my students how to make a gear, one of them commented, "I didn't know you could make gears. I thought you had to buy them".

58 posted on 03/28/2020 3:20:17 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: ifinnegan

.”Just in time” supply chain management


59 posted on 03/28/2020 3:21:41 PM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
The Chinese people in Shanghai were wearing them while walking the streets in 1991. What do they know and when did they know it?

Hint: Chinese people worry about that crap all of the time.

60 posted on 03/28/2020 3:23:13 PM PDT by GingisK
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