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To: DoughtyOne

what I will look for the beginning of April is what the total number of deaths in Italy in the month of March was.......and then compare that number to February,January,etc....if its not much different than normal, we’ll know they gave false data or at least did not have proper data...


87 posted on 03/26/2020 12:56:24 AM PDT by cherry (])
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To: cherry

That sounds like a decent idea.

I’m not sure what the situation is with the seasonal flu there
either, or even if this has been a light year for that there.

Todd Herman is filling in for Rush this week, and he seems to
have read or heard something that has him thinking as much as 805
of the numbers being claimed to be deaths from COVID-19, may
be mislabeled.

I don’t know what to make of that frankly.

I’m going to post something else to you in a moment.

It actually addresses how Italy is classifying it’s causes of death,
and I think it is suspect of the fact of it.

We’ll see if you agree.


89 posted on 03/26/2020 1:17:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hi! My name is Larry, and I'm a COVID-19FearPhobicAholic. Hi Larry, welcome. We've been there.)
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To: cherry

Here’s a clipping from an article found in the Journal of the
American Medical Association.

Definition of COVID-19–Related Deaths

A second possible explanation for the high Italian case-
fatality rate may be how COVID-19–related deaths are
identified in Italy. Case-fatality statistics in Italy are
based on defining COVID-19–related deaths as those occurring
in patients who test positive for SARS-CoV-2 via RT-PCR,
independently from preexisting diseases that may have caused
death. This method was selected because clear criteria for
the definition of COVID-19–related deaths is not available.

Electing to define death from COVID-19 in this way may have
resulted in an overestimation of the case-fatality rate. A
subsample of 355 patients with COVID-19 who died in Italy
underwent detailed chart review. Among these patients, the
mean age was 79.5 years (SD, 8.1) and 601 (30.0%) were
women. In this sample, 117 patients (30%) had ischemic heart
disease, 126 (35.5%) had diabetes, 72 (20.3%) had active
cancer, 87 (24.5%) had atrial fibrillation, 24 (6.8%) had
dementia, and 34 (9.6%) had a history of stroke. The mean
number of preexisting diseases was 2.7 (SD, 1.6). Overall,
only 3 patients (0.8%) had no diseases, 89 (25.1%) had a
single disease, 91 (25.6%) had 2 diseases, and 172 (48.5%)
had 3 or more underlying diseases. The presence of these
comorbidities might have increased the risk of mortality
independent of COVID-19 infection.

COVID-19–related deaths are not clearly defined in the
international reports available so far, and differences in
definitions of what is or is not a COVID-19–related death
might explain variation in case-fatality rates among
different countries. To better understand the actual causes
of death, the ISS is now reviewing the complete medical
records of all patients with positive RT-PCR results who
have died in Italy.

That seems to be rather problematic to me.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763667


90 posted on 03/26/2020 1:23:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hi! My name is Larry, and I'm a COVID-19FearPhobicAholic. Hi Larry, welcome. We've been there.)
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