Posted on 03/22/2020 1:19:20 PM PDT by FarRockaway2
[Editor's note: Lack of FDA approval does not prohibit off-label use of drugs for other threapeutic purposes, but would inhibit widespred use.]
You are being lied to about the drugs that heal COVID19.
America's FDA, and National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Dr. Anthony Fauci, are dragging their feet on approving a drug that provides very strong positive effect on COVID19.
Fauci, speaking from the White House, said on the matter of approving Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin:
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
No difference.
Treatment of COVID-19 with hydroxychloroquine is standard therapy, it is not “compassionate use”.
Off-label use of drugs happens thousands of times a day, it is ordinary, there is nothing special about it at all.
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FDA does not “approve” drugs that are already approved. Hydroxychloroquine has been approved since 1955.
I think the problem is one of supply. There isn't enough hydroxychloroquine to treat the random patient who may have the virus. By leaving it off-label it is under the control of the infectious disease specialist at the hospital to decide to use the medication and on who.
Teva pharmaceuticals was donating 6,000,000 pills to the US. Based on the now infamous French study you take 3 pills a day for 10 days. Therefore Teva's donation is only enough to treat 200,000 cases.
We currently have over 33000 positives in the USA. If quarantine efforts are not effective that number will surpass 200,000 rather quickly. So do you approve it so that it can get into the hands of people who may not need it or do you leave things as they are and let specialists decide who to treat with it?
The FDA is probably waiting to ensure a plentiful supply before they approve the drug for general use in the disease. This goes for azithromycin as well. It's fairly plentiful but we use it quite frequently for any number of infections. If you approve it for COVID-19 general use will it be available for other uses?
Your statement to me is a nonsequitir. I know that. Everyone knows that. That is not the issue in the posted article. The issue is: FDA approval *specifically for the treatment of COVID19* and Fauci claiming the evidence is anecdotal. The evidence is not anecdotal. Yes, it is approved for malaria. Which is covered in the article.
If the USA knew it was available (from the virus task force press conferences) they would a) ask for it and b) get some level of reassurance that there is a drug that does actually do something positive. Instead, we have bureacrats claiming that a clinical study is the same thing as anecdotal, which it is not.
Treatment of COVID-19 with hydroxychloroquine is standard therapy, it is not “compassionate use”.
Since when? Like 5 minutes ago? What does “standard therapy” mean when the national classification is “off label” and “compassionate use”? You are saying that because hospitals issue guidance to doctors, this trumps the FDA classification?
I’d love to know/believe why it would now be standard-use. I hope for that. But you are saying that doctors - individuals - have just decided as a group that its now standard? Because of the guidance from Belgium, South Korea, China?
Thanks Chgogal. The fog of war needs to be cut through. I think this forum is helping.
Fauci’s comment about it being antidotal annoyed me.
That is a very thoughtful reply. It seems to me the drug is, in general, inexpensive. And full, formal, FDA approval-for-COVID19-specifically, would, as you say, increase demand and remove the gatekeeper - thanks for telling me about the infectious disease specialist. So we need both - formal approval-for-COVID19 plus supply. Seems to me the govt could just write a check to each one of the hydroxychloroquine manufacturers, and talk to them to see how many doses they can produce. Low cost has to be the solution because numbers are so enormous. The high-cost options probably just won’t be able to manufacture the numbers.
Can off label prescriptions happen millions of times per day?
Because that is what will be required in 1+ month.
He was basically telling people that it was hearsay, when in fact you have this substantial set of good science papers supporting fact that there IS a drug which will save people’s lives. Wouldnt want them to know THAT. And wouldn’t want them to go around asking for it. And wouldn’t want them to know they could go buy it a Walmart. I had one MD tell me she was screaming at the TV when he said that.
Exactly. His comment made me very suspicious of his actions or the lack thereof.
Thanks.
“Why do I have this odd feeling that if Dr Fauci was on his death bed he would want to eagerly use these meds -’approved’ or not?”
Why do I have this odd feeling that Dr. Fauci is using these meds even as we speak?
Good question. It’s already being used, so why not here? It’s OK to use on one person who is terminal, but it’s not OK to use when hundreds who are terminal for sure, and thousands possibly?
PDJT should just say it’s “a thing”, and tell doctors to use it if patients request it. It’s their right to try.
Always follow the money. It’s like big pharma has become a cousin of the military complex and there’s a ton of money to be made by the elite who are the inside players.
I still want to know where his family’s investments lie.
I saw stores selling drugs in ports on a cruise last month. I wish I’d known about this drug then. I could have dropped in and made a purchase.
“If Fauci or his wife own 1 share, their punishment should be that for sedition and murder.”
Don’t forget their siblings and children. Think “Biden”.
“The drug is routinely given for months at a time for other ailments in similar doses.”
I think it was Drew Pinsky who said people use this for arthritis for years with no problem. The only problem CAN be some growth or something on the cornea, and it isn’t common. People see an eye doctor once a year for a checkup and if there’s a problem it’s easily cured.
Then Trump lies every time he says that Right To Try is helping people.
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