Posted on 03/18/2020 7:40:41 PM PDT by bitt
A drug originally developed to treat malaria is showing signs that it may also cure infections of the coronavirus, though much more testing is needed.
Researchers and virologists in France have completed a clinical trial studying the effects of hydroxychloroquine, used to treat arthritis, malaria, and other ailments, on patients with COVID-19. Researchers treated a total of 26 coronavirus patients with the drug, including six that were given the antibiotic azithromycin, as well.
The researchers released their findings in a study published on Wednesday. The results showed that all six patients treated with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin tested negative for the virus after six days. Of the 20 treated with just hydroxychloroquine, 57.1% tested negative for the coronavirus after six days. Just 12.5% of the control group made up of 16 other patients tested negative.
"Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin," the study said.
Raoult, an infectious disease expert from l’Institut Hospitalo-Universitaire in Marseille, led the research team that conducted the study. Gregory Rigano, an adviser to the Stanford University School of Medicine SPARK Translational Research Program, is leading a program based on Raoult’s results to study the effects of hydroxychloroquine on treating COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
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See my post #17
As I remember it was a good sized pill. -Tom
It is just ingrained training embedded in these medical folk. For years I told friends who were susceptible to the severe pain of shingles to ask their Dr for a chicken pox vaccination - it is the same Herpes zoster virus. It appears to go dormant in the myelin sheath of the nerves after a juvenile bout of chicken pox only to reawaken later at middle age. I would tell my friends: Don't tell the Dr it is for shingles because then they will refuse to give the vaccination.
Invariably they would admit that they were worried about shingles and the Dr would refuse the shot. I even had Dr's argue with me that the shot was unnecessary because, since they had chicken pox as a child, they were immune to the virus! That is tautalogically impossible! It is the same virus.
In the late 1990s a Japanese researcher decided to try the treatment and was successful. Now every mature person is encouraged to get a shingles shot. Of course it is not a chicken pox vaccination so they can charge more for it.
I congratulate the Japanese researcher but I am going to take credit for the breakthrough. No, no one ever heard of me but I argued the medicos for years for the procedure. They had to know that I was right but the AMA and Mayo had not endorsed the Idea so the Dr's let their patients suffer. It is just the way they are trained.
When Rush announced his lung cancer I alerted him to a dog de-worming med that was showing some success against small cell carcinoma. He has gone with the traditionalists - and I perfectly understand. He even said on the air that he was rejecting the de-worming alternative. If all else fails I hope he will remember my suggestion.
Very interesting maps!
Malaria zones & wuhan virus zones almost exclusive of one another.
Azithromycin may have some antiviral properties. The issue is more that the coronavirus is a viral respiratory attacker that leads to pneumonia, a bacterial disease; the zithro deals with the bacteria else wise recovery would be less likely. The combination of an antiviral and an antibiotic makes sense. The only question is whether the Choloquine is an effective CoViD antiviral agent.
Yes. Corona is where malaria is not. Interesting.
Maybe. There are cases in the malaria regions, but they are relatively low in number.
India is the interesting one. Less than 150 cases and you’d figure it would just tear through a country with that high a population density. Maybe they’ll be hitting the thousands in a week or so, but if they’re not, it could well be because a significant percentage of the population is taking that anti-malaria drug.
They were rather large horse pills.
Made my nails and hair grow pretty fast, too.
One pill four times a day while in country.
“I was just glad to hear it start being whispered about.”
Whispering isn’t good enough. I’m going to email Fox and tell them to have their White House correspondants — Blake Bermann, John Roberts, etc. — to bring this up every day, and more than once. If the WH Task Force is hiding this on purpose, there’s got to be a way to get the message out. People should be informed about all options. If they want to keep effective treatments a secret, why?
Also, what if someone tested positive and asked his PCP for this medicine specifically? Would a doctor be able to prescribe it? They have authority to prescribe other meds without asking, “Mother, may I?” to a heavy-handed government agency. So what about this?
“Big Pharma is going to try and kill this.”
That’s why people need to be noisy about this and get the word out. Make demands. Also, if the economy is in the toilet people won’t be able to afford a new drug. Uncle Sugar might pay initial R&D costs (with our taxpayer money), but patients will pay when purchasing.
Get them! Thank you!
Couple of years ago I had a bad cold that moved into my chest. Couldn’t breathe so went to doc and was given a z pack. 2 days later I was back at the doc because I wasn’t better. Apparently it doesn’t work on me and the doc told me that it doesn’t work on about 25% of people. Guess I’m screwed.
Dang! For the life of me I can’t find an email address for Fox. They’ve all gone to social media (which I don’t do) it seems.
Thanks for the info!! Everyone stay well.
PFL
“Whispering isn’t good enough. “
Agreed! FYI, an article about this subject is currently the headline story on the NY Post website. So, hopefully the word about this is starting to get out there.
Really? *Whom*?
The correct relative pronoun is *who*. It is the *subject* of the clause. *whom* is used for direct and indirect objects.
Chloroquine is the main drug though. Azith just helps.
Had to look up the word tautalogically. According to various definitions, I still don’t get your point in your reference. Layman’s terms please.
In propositional logic, tautological consequence is a strict form of logical consequence in which the tautologousness of a proposition is preserved from one line of a proof to the next...
I see I misspelled tautological; I typed it correctly at first but my Kindle tablet rendered it as a misspelling - so I misspelled it all on my own. :^)
Tautological consequence is not 'preserved' because one cannot be immune to a virus that is causing them to be diseased. I should probably stop using the term because it has been many years since I studied such things, and it is an ambiguous term. I could just say, 'It is not logically possible' ... or some such.
Thanks for the challenge; I had to shift my brain into gear today finally. :^)
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