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‘A war would trigger devastating consequences’: Turkey and Russia try to avoid clash as Erdogan hammers Assad......
washingtonexaminer ^ | 3/2/2020 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 03/02/2020 7:00:39 PM PST by caww

Turkish forces have targeted the Syrian regime’s military repeatedly over the last several days..Erdogan blamed Assad for the strike, which U.S. officials said was likely coordinated with the Russian military.

Russian military officials aren’t ready to allow Erdogan to target Assad’s military, which relies on Russia for air support.

“In this situation, the Russian troops’ command can’t guarantee security of flights of Turkish aircraft in the skies over Syria,” Russian Rear Adm. Oleg Zhuravlev, one of the top commanders for Russia’s operations in Syria...

Erdogan and Putin are expected to meet Thursday in Moscow to discuss the crisis and a potential cease-fire.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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To: Kaisersrsic

Turkey and Russian have fought wars 13 times. One is Islamic and the other has gone back to its Christian roots. Until that basic fact changes any alliance made is going to be temporary at best.


21 posted on 03/02/2020 11:37:18 PM PST by Nateman ( Unless the left is screaming you are doing it wrong.)
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To: caww

I’m no Tulsi Gabbard fan but she hit the nail on the head with this video clip.

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1233740452182024193


22 posted on 03/03/2020 12:06:42 AM PST by McGruff
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To: Kaisersrsic

Putin needs Syria’s ports and airfields for their powr projection in the Middle East as well as to ensure that they can operate in that theater unopposed (by Israel - not going to happen; Jordan - will stand by; Iraq - Nada; Iran - supports Putin; Saudi Arabia - tied down in Yemen, etc.

Putin on the Blitzes, he is.


23 posted on 03/03/2020 12:21:53 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Darksheare

Syria was a province of the Ottoman Empire only a tad over a century ago. Sultan Erdogan wants it back, I think.


24 posted on 03/03/2020 12:56:23 AM PST by arthurus (oo0-)
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To: boycott

First the Empire, then maybe the Califate. It is interesting that Turkiye is invading Syria and announcing an invasion of Greece, both former provinces.


25 posted on 03/03/2020 12:58:44 AM PST by arthurus (oo0-o)
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To: SmokingJoe

I think so.


26 posted on 03/03/2020 1:00:32 AM PST by arthurus (oo0-o)
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To: Ymani Cricket

Turkiye was a necessary part of NATO in the last century. It gave us radar and listening posts where we needed them contra USSR and blocked USSR from having easy access to the Mediterranean and prevented a Soviet military move on Istanbul which Russia has coveted for centuries. We still need Incirlik.


27 posted on 03/03/2020 1:04:55 AM PST by arthurus (oo0-ov)
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To: Nateman

[ Turkey and Russia have fought wars 13 times. ]

I had no idea it was that many.


28 posted on 03/03/2020 1:34:05 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: McGruff

“Stop Arming Terrorists Act”

Interesting bit with Tulsi there.

I notice she failed to mention Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and all that happened on their watch.

That being said, yes, Erdogan seems dangerous.


29 posted on 03/03/2020 1:38:34 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: arthurus
Keyword there is "last century". First of all, the treaty of Lausanne deprived the Kurds of a homeland unlike the previous treaty the Turks didn't like. We should have been far more tough on them (negotiation-wise) after the first World War.

A lot of mixed feelings about Turkey exist, especially by the Greeks (Cyprus invasion by Turkey for instance?). Turkey threatening a further onslaught of "migrants" if they don't get their way isn't cool. Incirlik... So Turkey threatens not allowing us to use the base because we criticized them for buying Russian weapons?? Look, find a base somewhere else, because why the h-ll is a NATO ally buying Russian weapons and anti missle and getting pissed at us when we say it BS and call them out on it? You either in NATO or your not. And as a buffer against communism as it once was it no longer serves its purpose. We need a buffer against radical Islamists. Greece and Bulgaria. Oh, and Clinton (atlantic globalists) gave Kosovo to the muslims when it was not theirs to give. Another buffer and border of Europe. Turkey's chief goal is to dominate the EU within years, it's not like they hide it. I think that's very dangerous. Hence Brexit.

They act more like a double agent than an ally. We need to have tougher negotiations.

30 posted on 03/03/2020 1:42:34 AM PST by Ymani Cricket (Pressure makes diamonds - General Patton)
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To: thoughtomator

Oh and btw, Trump pulled us out at the right time.

I am willing to bet that Trump is giving Erdogen (our NATO Ally), all the intelligence he needs to fight Syria (and Russia).


31 posted on 03/03/2020 5:01:24 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: SmokingJoe

Wrongo


32 posted on 03/03/2020 5:02:07 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

Nonsense.


33 posted on 03/03/2020 5:26:14 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: caww
war would trigger devastating consequences

Chief Inspector Clouseau on the job?

34 posted on 03/03/2020 5:46:38 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Nateman

All alliances are temporary. Turkey is going to be allied with either the USA or Russia. Putin would welcome NATO’s second largest military with open arms, if Turkey would change sides.


35 posted on 03/03/2020 7:39:30 AM PST by Kaisersrsic
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To: GreyHoundSailor

No, it is not the most likely outcome, but Erdogan and Putin do not need to meet in person to keep fighting. With Russia’s help, Turkey could send 3+ million Syrian refugees back across the border. NATO membership has not solved that problem.


36 posted on 03/03/2020 7:50:06 AM PST by Kaisersrsic
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To: SmokingJoe

Putin would not need to “give” Syria to Turkey, it would just need to allow Turkey to take Syria without preventing it. An ally in its ninth year of civil war is not what most would describe as “strong.” Syria’s importance to the balance of world power is nothing compared with Turkey.


37 posted on 03/03/2020 8:17:45 AM PST by Kaisersrsic
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