Posted on 02/27/2020 10:14:59 AM PST by DannyTN
China has discovered that roughly 14% of patients who recover from coronavirus test positive for the killer disease again – with the mechanism behind the virus' apparent ability to re-infect a complete mystery.
This comes after Japan reported that a female tour-bus guide aged in her 40s had tested positive for the COVID-19 virus for a second time in Osaka.
Normally, when you overcome a virus you gain immunity for a while afterwards which is why it is so rare for children to get chickenpox twice. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at dailystar.co.uk ...
It wouldn’t surprise me if they exaggerated the severity in Xinjiang so they could “deal” with the Uyghurs. However, unlikely in major Han cities like Wuhan, Shanghai, and Beijing.
Why affix PANIC whenever someone owes something tha put in perspective is prudent? This applies to all of the naysayers that dismiss any concern, often out of fear it might fall on President Trump. Snowflakes.
“Why affix PANIC whenever someone owes something tha put in perspective is prudent?”
Perhaps rational precautions have to be ridiculed in order to defend their position that they’re so wedded to.
China is lying about the numbers infected, and lying slightly less about the number killed (harder to hide the dead)
That would make the mortality rate closer to flu than SARS
When looking at the genome sequence of the new coronavirus, Professor Ruan Jishou and his team at Nankai University in Tianjin found a section of mutated genes that did not exist in Sars, but were similar to those found in HIV and Ebola.
Instead of hooking up to the ACE2 receptor, the novel coronavirus has a cleavage site on the spike. This tricks something called the furin enzyme, on human cells, to cleave the spike at that point — allowing the viral membrane and the human cell’s membrane to join, effectuating the entry of the virus into the cell.
Guess which other viruses actively have their own Furin? Ebola and AIDS.
If your goal is economic disruption, rather than extinction of your enemy, you would want a virus that behaves like this one is reputed to be acting.
The problem is that we don’t have major breakout in a non-Asian population to see what the implications might be in this country.
It’s a good problem to have, but it does tend to invite the Chicken Littles of the world to start crowing about things they have no clue about.
Who told?
“(1) We’ve heard there’s a “2%” mortality rate with coronavirus compared to below 1% for regular flu. “
0.1% for the flu, and that 2% figure typically includes a lot of unresolved cases so it is bogus as well as some of those unresolved cases will not recover. The data out of China (and Iran) is not reliable and the data out of everywhere else is insufficient for real analysis - the data sets are too small. For example, in India the CFR (Case Fatality Rate) is 0% (3 cases, all recovered) and in the Philippines the CFR is 50% (3 cases, 1 death, 1 recovery and 1 unresolved). Those samples are just too small and even taken together they yield a CFR of 20%. In France, the CFR is 15%, in Italy, 100%, in the USA, Canada, Australia and a bunch of others 0%. The numbers are all over the place due to the lack of adequate data. Watch Korea, Italy and Japan for how they do and you’ll get a better idea, but it is still early there as well.
“I strongly suspect the actual % of deaths to infections for Coronavirus is MUCH lower. Commie countries are notorious for fabricating data and false numbers. I don’t think they have a handle on the number of people with infections - most of them mild, not “deadly.” “
The Chinese are clearly suppressing the numbers, but their usual tactic is to downplay the danger so as to protect their economy. They have taken unprecedented steps in the case of this outbreak. They lost most of Q1 and any economic activity in Q2 is likely to be anemic. There are already shortages of some items that rely on China for parts.
“(2) Prices for supplies imported from China are actual data we can use, to verify what is happening. If we see prices rising dramatically over the next few months - that will confirm it is really deadly, not just widespread sniffles. “
Again, parts and product shortages are already happening, and factories in Korea have been affected as well. Price gouging seems to be limited to virus-related items such as masks which are high demand with no alternative suppliers but it could propagate to other areas. We’ll see if suppliers in nonaffected areas can replace the Chinese sources (permanently would be good).
“(3) The hysteria about this Virus, to date, seems mostly a bunch of last gasp, “RUSSIA”! type spin from the ‘Rats as their non-serious POTUS “candidates” circle the drain...…”
The “hysteria” here started well before the MSM picked up on the story. First there were the people saying it was the end of the world, then there were the people saying this is nothing but a Deep State plot to overthrow President Trump by turning it into his “Katrina”. Both are wrong, but, hey, if you point that out you will be abused for it.
This is somewhere in between. It’s not just the flu but it isn’t the end of the world, and China would not have destroyed their economy, perhaps irreparably, for “widespread sniffles” or at the behest of the Deep State. They don’t care how many of their own peasants die if it advances their world dominance agenda. From the well documented actions they have taken, there is panic at the highest levels.
If Trump fails to act and nothing happens here, great, he can say the Rats were overhyping this to cause panic, etc., etc. If he fails to act and stuff does happen here, he is toast. If he acts and nothing happens, great, he has saved us yet again. If he acts and stuff still happens, he mitigated the problem and can point to actual Rat obstruction that cost lives.
So he should act, be seen to act, and that is what he is doing. I think he’s been on this as long as anybody here has, which is why the travel restrictions came so quickly. Even so, no containment is perfect and there are irresponsible and hostile regimes and people out there, so a basic level of prep is the wise course.
Don’t panic. Prepare and be vigilant.
Gilead’s drug was used successfully against Ebola.
Gilead’s drug was used successfully against Ebola.
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Yep, that’s why the ChiComs tried it on WuFlu, with some success.
>> 2. They only seemed recovered but relapsed. <<
>> 4. Tests are giving false negatives and patients never really recovered.<<
Seems plausible... I recall the false negative rate is high, and many people go asymptomatic... but to my limited medical knowledge (Bio BS, not even pre-med), I don’t know of other diseases that do this. I do know of many that go dormant: Herpes, Chicken pox/shingles, etc.
>> 3. Mutated strains are causing the reinfection, explaining the lack of long lasting immunity. <<
If “recovered” people are being sent to centralized quarantines, #3 makes sense.
One of my thoughts is maybe we should pull out one of the common cold coronaviruses and infect everyone. That might give some immunity to the Novel Coronavirus.
Everybody gets a cold but maybe they’re protected in part against the new virus.
Cancer also goes dormant they call it remission however it can return sometimes with a vengeance!!!
True... I mean “infections.”
OR MAYBE THAT’S WHY CHILDREN OFTEN DON’T GET SYMPTOMS!!!!!!!
If this virus gets worse after you’ve already had it, maybe the more coronaviruses you’ve had (weighting for similarity), the worst it is?
I wonder how to drop that ear-worm on a researcher?
I had the HONG KONG flu as a young person BOY it was a nasty flu, I thought I was going to die flat on my back for 2 weeks another week to start feeling halfway human again!! I have NEVER had another flu since then, I have worked in and owned restaurants my entire life always working in the public never had a flu shot and NEVER once contracted the flu!!! I feel very blessed but have always wondered if my immune system built up an immunity to these viruses after fighting off that NASTY flu!!!
Now they know you should have been flat on your stomach.
An early medcram youtube video on the Coronavirus said that prone position 15-18 hours a day reduces flu mortality by 60%.
Guess it lets the lungs drain better.
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