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Nevada Democrats debut to volunteers new iPad-based ‘tool’ to calculate math on Caucus Day in the wake of Iowa fiasco
The Nevada Independent ^ | 2/8/2020 | Megan Messerly

Posted on 02/10/2020 11:26:44 AM PST by catnipman

Asked by a volunteer how results would be transmitted from one place to another, the staffer demurred.

“Those are all excellent questions, and we’re still working out some of the details around those ...” she said.

In interviews, volunteers said they received little information at the training beyond a rough outline of how the tool is supposed to function. They also were unsure how the party plans to carry out its four-day early voting period, which previously relied on the use of an app to capture people’s preferences.

Morrison said that there was “not a bit of proof” at the training that Nevada wouldn’t be another Iowa.

Another volunteer ... said the general sentiment in the room at the training was frustration and confusion.

“We got very little information. It was just a preview. There was no hands on,” the volunteer said. “We were not given the program to work with or practice with. All we have were a few slides to look at while they told us that they’re planning to develop it further.”

Volunteers said they were also not given additional details about how they would properly realign early voters ...

They also expressed concerns that the party is still recruiting caucus volunteers. Volunteers were told that precinct chairs should be prepared to carry out two caucuses at their site if necessary. One volunteer expressed concerns that the people participating in the training didn’t even seem to understand the basic details of how to carry out the caucus process and didn’t know that precinct chairs can’t also be precinct captains on behalf of a campaign.

Nevada Democrats have been working quickly to come up with a new caucus plan after scrapping their plan earlier this week in the wake of the Iowa fiasco.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenevadaindependent.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democratic; fiasco; nevada; primary
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To: jjotto; Blood of Tyrants

“Yes it is, but not many people seem to know the details. That’s how Bernie got thousands more votes but fewer delegates to the next round.”

more complete lies ...


21 posted on 02/10/2020 12:06:39 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

The raw vote totals compared to ‘delegate equivalents’ speak for themselves.


22 posted on 02/10/2020 12:13:09 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: jjotto

“Here’s a count with Bernie winning by 2588 votes”

Iowa delegates are not awarded based on the state-wide vote, which is just as irrelevant as the so-called “popular” vote in the national Presidential election. Dem Iowa delegates are independently awarded from each of nearly 1,700 precinct caucuses in Iowa, and the number of people voting at a caucus is based on how many show up, while the number of delegates of a precinct is a fixed number based on the number of registered Dems in a precinct, thus there’s zero correlation between the total number of people voting and the number of delegates that are awarded ... that’s why caucuses are a ridiculous way to select candidates ..


23 posted on 02/10/2020 12:14:55 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Liz
Wow. Thanks for posting that, it explains a lot. Three-factor security equals three points of failure.

So that's why they couldn't just phone in the results as they had been in the past: under Plan B they couldn't enter them. And Plan C consisted of emailing marginally legible photos of the raw data into a mailbox nobody checked until the next day? There is failure, and then there is epic failure.

24 posted on 02/10/2020 12:16:30 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: catnipman

I was being rhetorical in my original question. I know all about caucuses. I am from Iowa and attended them in the Reagan, HW Bush and Bob Dole eras. I also worked polls with my dad many times in both primary and general elections. It was just like you said, the caucus chairs drove the results to the county election HQ. This is either deliberate fraud using technology, or complete incompetence. The hypocrisy of the dumbcrats and how they always insist to “count every vote”, or “no voter ID because that may disenfranchise a vote”, or the “electoral college is unfair” is just off the charts with this Iowa fiasco.


25 posted on 02/10/2020 12:18:30 PM PST by SDShack
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To: catnipman

Have they tried Google Sheets?


26 posted on 02/10/2020 12:21:00 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: catnipman

Cluster-bleep.


27 posted on 02/10/2020 12:21:01 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SDShack

“I was being rhetorical in my original question.”

LOL!


28 posted on 02/10/2020 12:24:07 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Billthedrill

Dems were thorough.....they covered every base....for epic failure.


29 posted on 02/10/2020 12:24:19 PM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: SDShack

“or complete incompetence.”

it’s gotta be complete incompetence, because all of this national attention is a REALLY bad way to try to pull of “legitimate” fraud ...


30 posted on 02/10/2020 12:26:27 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: P.O.E.

“Have they tried Google Sheets?”

you must be joking because many of the people who end up running them make cat ladies look like geniuses ...


31 posted on 02/10/2020 12:37:28 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

Asked by a volunteer how results would be transmitted from one place to another, the staffer demurred.

“Those are all excellent questions, and we’re still working out some of the details around those ...” she said.

************************************************************

What could go wrong?


32 posted on 02/10/2020 12:49:42 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: catnipman

Well kind of a joke. Their current system isn’t exactly wowing them.

Should be easy to set up a sharepoint to have pre-registered approved users to enter data, even if only for “unofficial results”. It has a history feature so one could easily ferret out bad actors.


33 posted on 02/10/2020 12:56:12 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

“Should be easy to set up a sharepoint to have pre-registered approved users to enter data, even if only for “unofficial results”. It has a history feature so one could easily ferret out bad actors.”

since caucus secretaries are not selected until AFTER the caucus starts, how do they get pre-registered?


34 posted on 02/10/2020 1:00:39 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman; SunkenCiv

Great. As a former Florida resident, I don’t have to feel bad anymore about what went on during the 2000 recount. I thought the Democratic Party was going to commit suicide by offering us too many extremist, unelectable candidates. Now it looks like they’ll do it by messing up all their vote counts. Shall we bet on it happening in New Hampshire tomorrow?


35 posted on 02/10/2020 1:03:02 PM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: catnipman

I’m sure there’s an official at each one that could be assigned the go-to role ahead of time.

I could set one up in a week. Heck, with the proper funding, I could take up to a whole year.


36 posted on 02/10/2020 1:04:08 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: catnipman

Dumb people cannot design, build or operate smart systems.

Hire a Republican.


37 posted on 02/10/2020 1:09:12 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: catnipman

that’s not an app. Now THIS is an app.


38 posted on 02/10/2020 1:15:15 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Mariner

“Dumb people cannot design, build or operate smart systems.”

The Mariner Principle ...


39 posted on 02/10/2020 1:23:39 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: P.O.E.

“I’m sure there’s an official at each one that could be assigned the go-to role ahead of time.”

that’s not how the caucus system works: it’s totally catch as catch can as to who (if any) show up ... no one knows in advance how many (if any) will show up for any given precinct caucus, and no one has opened or read the instruction packet before any caucus starts ... no one knows who will be caucus secretary or chair before the caucus starts ... and there are NO “officials” at a precinct caucus ... it’s just a bunch of strangers who show up at a schoolhouse classroom or firehouse for a couple of hours one evening ... precinct caucuses are absolutely the lowest form of “democracy”, in more ways than one, and not all of them good ...

that’s the main reason that it’s insane to even think of using any technology besides a pencil and paper, which, btw, even THOSE can sometimes be hard to find at a precinct caucus, where people start digging around in their pockets trying to find one ... i know all of this from having attended many precinct caucuses in Colorado, and Republican caucuses at that!


40 posted on 02/10/2020 1:33:11 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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