Posted on 02/10/2020 11:26:44 AM PST by catnipman
“Yes it is, but not many people seem to know the details. That’s how Bernie got thousands more votes but fewer delegates to the next round.”
more complete lies ...
The raw vote totals compared to ‘delegate equivalents’ speak for themselves.
“Here’s a count with Bernie winning by 2588 votes”
Iowa delegates are not awarded based on the state-wide vote, which is just as irrelevant as the so-called “popular” vote in the national Presidential election. Dem Iowa delegates are independently awarded from each of nearly 1,700 precinct caucuses in Iowa, and the number of people voting at a caucus is based on how many show up, while the number of delegates of a precinct is a fixed number based on the number of registered Dems in a precinct, thus there’s zero correlation between the total number of people voting and the number of delegates that are awarded ... that’s why caucuses are a ridiculous way to select candidates ..
So that's why they couldn't just phone in the results as they had been in the past: under Plan B they couldn't enter them. And Plan C consisted of emailing marginally legible photos of the raw data into a mailbox nobody checked until the next day? There is failure, and then there is epic failure.
I was being rhetorical in my original question. I know all about caucuses. I am from Iowa and attended them in the Reagan, HW Bush and Bob Dole eras. I also worked polls with my dad many times in both primary and general elections. It was just like you said, the caucus chairs drove the results to the county election HQ. This is either deliberate fraud using technology, or complete incompetence. The hypocrisy of the dumbcrats and how they always insist to “count every vote”, or “no voter ID because that may disenfranchise a vote”, or the “electoral college is unfair” is just off the charts with this Iowa fiasco.
Have they tried Google Sheets?
Cluster-bleep.
“I was being rhetorical in my original question.”
LOL!
Dems were thorough.....they covered every base....for epic failure.
“or complete incompetence.”
it’s gotta be complete incompetence, because all of this national attention is a REALLY bad way to try to pull of “legitimate” fraud ...
“Have they tried Google Sheets?”
you must be joking because many of the people who end up running them make cat ladies look like geniuses ...
Asked by a volunteer how results would be transmitted from one place to another, the staffer demurred.
“Those are all excellent questions, and we’re still working out some of the details around those ...” she said.
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What could go wrong?
Well kind of a joke. Their current system isn’t exactly wowing them.
Should be easy to set up a sharepoint to have pre-registered approved users to enter data, even if only for “unofficial results”. It has a history feature so one could easily ferret out bad actors.
“Should be easy to set up a sharepoint to have pre-registered approved users to enter data, even if only for “unofficial results”. It has a history feature so one could easily ferret out bad actors.”
since caucus secretaries are not selected until AFTER the caucus starts, how do they get pre-registered?
Great. As a former Florida resident, I don’t have to feel bad anymore about what went on during the 2000 recount. I thought the Democratic Party was going to commit suicide by offering us too many extremist, unelectable candidates. Now it looks like they’ll do it by messing up all their vote counts. Shall we bet on it happening in New Hampshire tomorrow?
I’m sure there’s an official at each one that could be assigned the go-to role ahead of time.
I could set one up in a week. Heck, with the proper funding, I could take up to a whole year.
Dumb people cannot design, build or operate smart systems.
Hire a Republican.
that’s not an app. Now THIS is an app.
“Dumb people cannot design, build or operate smart systems.”
The Mariner Principle ...
“I’m sure there’s an official at each one that could be assigned the go-to role ahead of time.”
that’s not how the caucus system works: it’s totally catch as catch can as to who (if any) show up ... no one knows in advance how many (if any) will show up for any given precinct caucus, and no one has opened or read the instruction packet before any caucus starts ... no one knows who will be caucus secretary or chair before the caucus starts ... and there are NO “officials” at a precinct caucus ... it’s just a bunch of strangers who show up at a schoolhouse classroom or firehouse for a couple of hours one evening ... precinct caucuses are absolutely the lowest form of “democracy”, in more ways than one, and not all of them good ...
that’s the main reason that it’s insane to even think of using any technology besides a pencil and paper, which, btw, even THOSE can sometimes be hard to find at a precinct caucus, where people start digging around in their pockets trying to find one ... i know all of this from having attended many precinct caucuses in Colorado, and Republican caucuses at that!
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