Posted on 02/06/2020 2:10:49 PM PST by janetjanet998
From the Daily Mail:
“Royal Caribbean cruise ship docks in New Jersey and four Chinese passengers are taken to hospital for testing by medics NOT wearing any masks while 23 others are screened by CDC”
Germany have confirmed 1 new case of the #coronavirus, bringing the total to 14. The patient is the wife of a previously confirmed case, an employee at Webasto in Munich. The patient is in isolation at the Munich Clinic Schwabing.
https://twitter.com/CoronavirusNews/status/1225871018700496896
“All passengers will be subject to a 14-day quarantine upon arrival at their destinations. Those who landed at Miramar earlier on Friday join the 167 Americans who arrived last week and have been living in quarantine on base. Five of those individuals have since been taken to two area hospitals after developing possible symptoms of the virus, including two children.”
When they “join” those from last week, will they all eat, play games and do zumba together and will the first group get out at the original 14 day date? Seems they could catch it from the second group and their 14 days should start over.
“It was not clear when the plane that landed at Lackland Air Force Base was expected to take off again, but it was estimated that it would carry a remaining 70 passengers to Nebraska.”
Yep, they sure did keep it hush-hush when the plane was arriving and how many got off. Not on any of the flight tracking sites or even their own base terminal site. Poor passengers who were flown to Omaha having to breath the recycled air and use a germy toilet for more hours.
Hey, that doctor the other day was roaming around the hospital without a mask and said it’s fine as long as you stay 5 ft. away.
Talk about stupid. Many medical personnel wore gloves and masks on a daily basis.
Ugh, I’ll never forget the doctor who came out of the restroom still zipping up and arranging himself as he called me into the file room to give me a shot. Let’s just say I never set foot in that clinic again.
More and more in wondering about the DHS briefing to the Kansas State legislators in mid January. What was the briefing about?
Very good point.
Unless those in the know realize this thing is going pandemic regardless and all this right now is just to buy them time and for show.:(
He said "6ft or so...", but 5ft would have worked for him too. They are being completely random.
He wasn't even a good liar. Hopefully it's a sign he has some conscience left.
I still want to know why the Harvard Prof also head of US/China Health Forum...who just returned from Wuhan....and was interviewed on FoxBiz....wasn’t in quarantine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG3WkiL0d_U&feature=youtu.be
Yes, it’s a madonna video.
The symbolism, especially around the 6:00 mark is astounding. What’s that on her head? A crown? What’s a synonym for crown? What happens to the people behind her? What are the lyrics of that HIGHLY disturbing song?
etc.
This was uploaded may of ‘19.
Back to work Monday for some places in China
I wonder if they will extend it?
New coronavirus infected 40 staff in single Wuhan hospital: Study
WASHINGTON: Forty health care workers were infected with the novel coronavirus by patients at a single Wuhan hospital in January, a new study has found, underscoring the risks to those at the frontlines of the growing epidemic.
One patient who was admitted to the surgical department was presumed to have infected 10 health care workers, according to the paper that was authored by doctors at the Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University and published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) on Friday (Feb 7).
Seventeen patients who were hospitalized for other reasons also became infected by the coronavirus. A total of 138 patients got the virus in a period spanning Jan 1 to Jan 28, with hospital-associated transmission accounting for 41 per cent of all cases.
Shenzhen health authority also issues notice that if a person is confirmed with #wuhancoronavirus, everyone living in the same building the sick person resides in will need to be quarantined for 14 days
https://twitter.com/onlyyoontv/status/1225792844167708672
Breaking: Guangzhou City (population: 14 M) locked down. All residential blocks be isolated from each other. So far around 400 million people locked down in #China to contain #coronavirus. #coronavirusOutbreak Original Chinese official report:
http://m.xinhuanet.com/gd/2020-02/07/c_1125542462.htm
The calculations of fatality rates are very complicated, when dealing with incomplete, inaccurate information.
I would replace "complicated" with "uncertain". The math is not all that complex compared to that used for analysis of many other things (say, a "crumple zone" in the front end of a car) which can go into astounding (to most people) detail. A modern computer can crunch through dozens of things like variable time until death in different regions, etc. No problem. Variance in input data can be handled by multiple simulations. So, it is no problem to generate lots of outputs, but, the problem is that if one is guessing wildly at the inputs, one gets a wide range of outputs. There is then no way other than, perhaps, experience or intuition, to know which output is likely "good", therefor the great uncertainty. "GIGO", if you will.
This is only a minor quibble over "semantics", I suppose. :-)
As far as the discrepancy between the areas, it can be explained by a huge number of factors. In all likelihood, though, it is because the gap from confirmation to death is wildly different. For example, in an area like a foreign country where the virus hasn’t taken hold yet, people tend to get tested much earlier (no backlog of cases, many people caught by screening, no testing backlog, etc.), and also tend to live longer, even if they eventually die (access to more doctors, ICUs, equipment, etc.). These factors can dramatically effect the time from diagnosis to death (by quite a number of days), and this increased gap can cause a wildly different deaths/confirmed ratio, even if nothing else is different.
Well, yes, but your example runs counter to the data from China vs. other countries fitting that example. A longer gap is not going to give you a lower fatality rate when a sometimes fatal disease is spreading. To the contrary, early detection resulting in many more survivors usually trumps a somewhat longer gap, even when a disease is spreading, unless the spread vs. gap is truly explosive. The exception would be if a disease had a very high mortality rate that did not respond to treatment or if effective life-saving treatment was not available. Then, early detection might not help the victims.
(I'm not disagreeing with you in general here, or about "gaps" in general - I just think you used the wrong example.) ;-)
Assuming the data is close to correct, Hubei's fatality rate is IMO most likely explained by, initially the health care system's inability to respond quickly enough to a new breakout (could any?), and later by lack of capacity for serious and critical cases (even with early detection, perhaps?) Gap variances could be in play, and obviously, more could be going on as well. In that too, we are in agreement.
I wouldn’t doubt if it was some kind of a bizarre ritual. It looks similar to this Denver airport mural.
Her Super Bowl show from a few years ago was also demonic.
The ‘corona’ part of the skit was disturbing, especially when the ‘victims’ fell down dead with the lyrics of ‘not everyone is coming to the future...’
new thread
Coronavirus Live Update Feb 7th, 2020 (Agenda Free TV)
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3814585/posts
Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 2,841 new cases and 81 new deaths
I'm assuming they know more about this virus right now then we do.
Meanwhile stateside, they let the rest of the passengers leave that weren't sick from the Anthem cruise ship that was docked in Jersey.
hey Bob - just letting you know our cranky diabetic is doing much better now he has eggs, sausages and pastries and a whole pot of coffee lol.
He says some passengers are running low on prescription meds, the ship is offering to refill the rxs complimentary but one person is having a problem. He’s got some good questions but our guy is smiling for the first time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGF_MFWAgwk
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