Posted on 01/30/2020 9:11:32 AM PST by DannyTN
Fighting the new coronavirus has been a battle against the unknown for doctors.
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Now, an account by medics on the front line of this epidemic, at the Jinyintan Hospital, in Wuhan, is starting to provide answers.
A detailed analysis of the first 99 patients treated there has been published in the Lancet medical journal.
Lung assault All of the 99 patients taken to the hospital had pneumonia - their lungs were inflamed and the tiny sacs where oxygen moves from the air to the blood were filling with water.
Other symptoms were:
82 had fever 81 had a cough 31 had shortness of breath 11 had muscle ache nine had confusion eight had a headache five had a sore throat
First deaths ...
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
Meant to ping you.
My point is, you should look at the data before commenting. It is growing much faster than SARS.
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That could be due to reporting anomalies.
SARS eventually leveled off and this will, too.
Hold muh donut while I fact check that with Google.
Except for the referenced “confusion” those symptoms were fairly common during our flu season. Short of some sort of testing, I’m confused as to how it is diagnosed. Flu or coronavirus?
Reporting anomalies from China most likely skew towards downplaying rather than honesty or exaggeration. And we all level off eventually.
All pandemics start out small. This virus has many of the characteristics of a pandemic capable virus: respiratory transmission, human to human transfer. In addition, it is contagious before symptoms appear. What will stop it from becoming pandemic is control measures, as we are seeing now. Time will tell, on the efficacy of the control measures.
And yet there were NO quarantines - no borders closed and NO pilots wearing bio-hazard suits... Makes one wonder... Actions count more than words.
That plus China doesn’t lockdown 54 million people for a case of the sniffles. Gotta be brain dead to accept China’s official death count.
It’s not scary unless it’s a one two punch bio weapon... the first virus setting you up for the second...
It’s not scary unless it’s a one two punch bio weapon... the first virus setting you up for the second... or it’s a dry run on how fast and where a virus can spread...
Right now, 2019-nCoV appears to be less virulent, with about a 4 percent mortality rate, the World Health Organization reported on January 24.22 hours ago
www.sciencenews.org article new-coronavirus-outbreak-your-most-...
Mortality of the Spanish Flu Pandemic. The global mortality rate from the 1918/1919 pandemic is not known, but it is estimated that 10% to 20% of those who were infected died. With about a third of the world population infected, this case-fatality ratio means that 3% to 6% of the entire global population died.
www.influenzavirusnet.com 1918-flu-pandemic mortality
I took a flu shot 20+ years ago. Have been sick with a nasty autoimmune disorder ever since. We force way too many vaccines on people and without sufficient testing.
We pass out vaccines like candy without proper vetting.
Great graphic. What people are missing, and is illustrated perfectly by your point - is that you have to think of the potential of this, using the currently estimated death rate of 2%, the rate it appears to be spreading at, and the scariest point of all: the fact that it incubates for up to 2 weeks, with non symptomatic people potentially havint the ability to spread this during part of this phase.
That alone sets it way apart from even the flu - which only incubates for a couple of days, and I think I read you can only transmit for about a day of that (could be wrong on that).
2 weeks. Think about that.
Then run the numbers on how fast this could spread in the USA, if it really hit here for real. We could have millions of dead if the thing is not stopped, and that is not a hysterical assessment.
There is a reason why some Harvard guy called this ‘thermonuclear pandemic level bad’. It may peter out due to the extreme measures being taken to prevent it - but articles encouraging Americans not to worry about this are not very helpful - we should worry enough to prepare and keep an eye out because if this thing begins actually spreading, our cities will begin looking like the abandoned Chinese ones.
I never knew soo many people in USA died of the flu. Unreal.
The respective mortality rates for SARS and MERS patients was 9.5 and 34.5 percent, far higher that for the new coronavirus, which French health minister Agnes Buzyn put at “less than five percent”. That rate is likely to decline, experts say, as the ratio of deaths to reported cases continues to widen.19 hours ago
https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-scientists-do-and-don-t-know-about-wuhan-coronavirus-so-far
to repeat: WHO is getting their mortality rate number from CHI COMS. They said that yesterday.
The French are also getting their numbers from Xi.
False premise = false conclusion.
thanks
What was the cause of the pneumonia’? Were the pneumonia’s bactericidal or virus?
If they were bactericidal, were they pneumococcal?
If pneumococcal, were the patients vaccinated for pneumonia and what pneumococcal vaccine did they receive?
Were the pneumonia’s gram negative bacterial infections, and if so did they do a culture and bacteria sensitivity to treat the patient?
If the patients had a viral pneumonia, did the patients die or survive?
Noticed the Johns Hopkins map got rid of the graph showing the parabolic increase in cases ... here’s a short link http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap
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