Cipollone is using way too many pronouns. Not only does that make it hard to follow as to whether Cip is referring to Trump or Zelensky. Too many pronouns also lessens the possibility of accurate sound bites for the media to use.
OANN showing it, too.
Its $5/month to live stream OANN. Its of my cafeteria plan internet channels. I have antenna & internet apps, no cable TV.