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To: Redmen4ever

>>Your post reminds me that you have to believe in something. During the 19th Century, it was thought there was a materialistic explanation for everything. Hence, Darwin and his theory of the origin of life. Today, the physics of the universe say no, there isn’t a materialistic explanation. Either there is a Creator or we are deeply alone and life is fragile and ultimately meaningless.<<

Well, since “the origin of life” is not what TToE says, the rest if your statement is devoid of meaning and/or fun but meaningless.

Your tautology seems rather bleak “if we do not beleive in a Creator we are meaningless” is not only simplistic but by definition, illogical.

One last note: people who understand science enough to understand TToE frequently believe in God (and Christ) — as do I. These are not mutually exclusive.


58 posted on 01/12/2020 9:56:59 PM PST by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: freedumb2003

Once we move from science to social science, we only talk of tendencies. Counter-examples, such as you claim to be, aren’t proof. There is a strong correlation between happiness and believing in God; also, employment, income, wealth, being married; and, NOT abusing drugs and NOT committing crime. There’s an epidemic of suicide out there.

Yes, there are people who believe in evolution and in God, seeing the Biblical story of creation as poetic. I have no problem with this. I myself see the expression there was evening and morning, the second day, as poetic, as distinguishing one long period of time from another. So, who am I to criticize another person for seeing poetry in the Bible? I also find it interesting that God formed us out of clay, when he could have made us out of nothing (”ex nihilo”), and then breathed life into us. So, there were two parts to us, a temporal part that might reflect an evolutionary process, and a spiritual part, which goes beyond any evolutionary process.

Accepting evolution was one response to the barrage of criticism of the Bible by atheists during the 19th Century. But, scientists have moved on from evolution. Those who study the matter are today in a quandary. Life is a miracle, as is the explosion of life during the Cambrian period, and the recovery of life following several extinction events in the planet’s history. Each of these is impossible from the standpoint of evolution. There is no sign of evolution in tool-making among pre-human hominids. Just sharpened rocks. Then, whamo, about 60,000 years ago, complex tools, fire, domestication of animals, cave art, counting and evidence of religious observance. We can call this a cultural explosion. We, modern humans, are wonderfully made.


59 posted on 01/13/2020 1:49:08 AM PST by Redmen4ever (u)
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