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Fact check: Biden's account of his advice on the bin Laden raid has changed over time
CNN ^ | January 4, 2020 | Daniel Dale

Posted on 01/05/2020 10:19:10 AM PST by karpov

Washington (CNN) -- A Friday exchange between Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and a Fox News journalist has drawn attention to Biden's shifting accounts of what he advised President Barack Obama about the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

Fox News journalist Peter Doocy challenged Biden about his criticism of President Donald Trump's decision to order the killing of Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani. Doocy asked Biden if he would be willing, as commander-in-chief, to thwart an "imminent attack on Americans" by using an airstrike to kill a "terrorist leader." (Trump claimed on Friday, without providing evidence, that Soleimani was planning a "very major attack.") "Well, we did," said Biden, who served as vice president to Obama. "The guy's name was Osama bin Laden." Doocy responded, "Didn't you tell President Obama not to go after bin Laden that day?" To which Biden responded: "No, I didn't. I didn't." Biden's description of his advice to Obama changed between 2012 and 2015; two of his accounts were contradictory. He said in 2012 that he had advised Obama "don't go" with the raid before obtaining more information. He then said in 2015 that he had not uttered this "don't go" opinion. Former top officials in the Obama administration have written in their memoirs that Biden was "against the operation," that he was "firmly in favor of waiting for more information," and that he was concerned about the risks of a raid.

At a Democratic congressional retreat in 2012, Biden told party legislators that he had advised Obama at the April 2011 meeting not to proceed with the raid before they could be more certain that bin Laden was present at the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where he would be found and killed.

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1 posted on 01/05/2020 10:19:10 AM PST by karpov
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To: karpov

I suspect the true answer begins with, “Well as soon as they got Barack in from the golf course...”


2 posted on 01/05/2020 10:21:03 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: karpov
(Trump claimed on Friday, without providing evidence, that Soleimani was planning a "very major attack.")

LOL! The left are such losers.

3 posted on 01/05/2020 10:22:29 AM PST by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: karpov

Because he has dementia.


5 posted on 01/05/2020 10:27:49 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Cowboy Bob
Here, I fixed it to make it fair:

Fox News journalist Peter Doocy challenged Biden about his criticism of President Donald Trump's decision to order the killing of Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani. Doocy asked Biden if he would be willing, as commander-in-chief, to thwart an "imminent attack on Americans" by using an airstrike to kill a "terrorist leader." (Trump claimed on Friday, without providing evidence, that Soleimani was planning a "very major attack.") "Well, we did," said Biden without providing evidence, who served as vice president to Obama. "The guy's name was Osama bin Laden." Doocy responded, "Didn't you tell President Obama not to go after bin Laden that day?" To which Biden responded without providing evidence: "No, I didn't. I didn't." Biden's description of his advice to Obama changed between 2012 and 2015; two of his accounts were contradictory. He said in 2012 that he had advised Obama "don't go" with the raid before obtaining more information without providing evidence. He then said in 2015 that he had not uttered this "don't go" opinion. Former top officials in the Obama administration have written in their memoirs without providing evidencethat Biden was "against the operation," that he was "firmly in favor of waiting for more information," and that he was concerned about the risks of a raid.
6 posted on 01/05/2020 10:28:32 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: karpov

In view of how effectively President Trump handled the attack on our embassy in Baghdad, someone needs to ask Biden what role he played, and what advice he gave Obama about Benghazi.


7 posted on 01/05/2020 10:28:54 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: karpov

Or, being a congenital Liar makes it hard to diagnose Alzheimer’s ...


8 posted on 01/05/2020 10:49:57 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: qwerty1234
Obama Bin Laden was a retired 'has been' at the time of his Obama termination living in a protected villa in Pakistan

General Qassim Soleimani, a top commander of Iran’s al-Quds Force, is and was actively planning and directing terrorism attacks at the time of his termination.
Proof of that fact is evidenced by the number of terrorist associates that were terminated
at the same time that he was terminated within Iraq, not in his home country of Iran.

Thus demonstrating :
"You are known by the company that you keep "

9 posted on 01/05/2020 10:53:41 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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“Without providing evidence-——.....” what a laugh, cnn loonies think there should be transparency in terrorist threats and our knowledge of them. What idiocy.

Biden is a moron... but cnn off the page leftist propaganda, who would film the destruction and then go..... “oh my, how did that happen”. Put them all on a test island— cnn so they can film themselves vaporizing. cnn’s “last selfies”.


10 posted on 01/05/2020 10:54:08 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: karpov

Liars have trouble remembering what they lied about in the past.


11 posted on 01/05/2020 10:57:21 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
That phrase, oddly enough, never seemed to follow a statement from Hillary Clinton on the CNN network. i.e. "My emails were hacked by Russians", Hillary claimed on Friday, without providing evidence....

and so forth...

12 posted on 01/05/2020 11:01:14 AM PST by fhayek
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The hard left is really worried about being frozen out again, the way Hillary and her crime family made sure Bernie got bent over the railing and done in the bun. One can't help but wonder if the Klantoons are behind it...

13 posted on 01/05/2020 11:27:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: NorthFLConservative
Exactly! Panetta wanted to go as soon as the location was known, and I believe he was in favor of a physical raid, rather than a smart bomb, because he wanted verification, and he wanted to watch the live feed of Obama's hero, er, bin Laden the terrorist get shot through both his effin' eyes.

14 posted on 01/05/2020 11:37:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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