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1 posted on 12/29/2019 3:00:37 PM PST by NobleFree
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To: NobleFree

We need to vote with our money. If the companies that would hire us get our business over those that ship our jobs out of the country, then they’ll make the profits while the free traitors take the losses.


85 posted on 12/29/2019 5:26:06 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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Probably as much fun as being told to train your younger replacement... one who "just happens to be" the offspring of a crony of the owner.

Good times.

86 posted on 12/29/2019 5:26:20 PM PST by niteowl77
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nowhere does it say “forced”.

I went through 2 major training “transitions” and I stayed by choice.


88 posted on 12/29/2019 5:28:53 PM PST by stylin19a ((2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever))
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I was working for a software company in 1984 when this happened to the company. The ‘excuse’ given by management was they couldn’t find any US workers that had the right kind of experience.

The East Indians arrived. Fortunately, they were additions to the staff and none of us Americans lost our job. But by doing this, management had driven a wedge into the employees. We resented the Indians, especially after we learned by working with the new faces there wasn’t anything special about them. We Americans knew as much as, in some cases more than, they did about software.

The company filed for bankruptcy and closed in early 1985. The Indians returned to their jobs with the outsourcing company. We Americans started looking for work.

Sad tale.


89 posted on 12/29/2019 5:34:22 PM PST by upchuck (Democrats say the President is out of control. They mean the President is out of THEIR control.)
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H1B / Outsourcing bump for later...…...


92 posted on 12/29/2019 5:48:09 PM PST by indthkr
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GOP Sen. Mike Lee Predicts Quick Passage of S.386 Visa-to-Voter Bill


93 posted on 12/29/2019 5:54:15 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Forced? At the point of a gun?

Or did people agree to stay and train others in return for money?


100 posted on 12/29/2019 6:43:05 PM PST by PTBAA
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My friend, a computer genius and family man, was let go from his Tampa corporation and forced to train his replacement in India before he left....as were a number of others in his company.

Cold-blooded, anti-American executives.

Leni

102 posted on 12/29/2019 6:52:48 PM PST by MinuteGal (l)
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Four years ago the large multi-national bank I work for announced they were offshoring and outsourcing damn' near everything in IT. The only IT functions we retained were App and Infrastructure Engineering. Everything else went to a combination of WiPro, IBM and TCS.

On December 2nd, my employer announced a huge about-face. Contracts with two of our outsourcing and offshoring vendors weren't being renewed. Our business partners were fed up with the lack of support and the focus on simply "closing tickets."

We'll be hiring almost 1,000 IT app and infrastructure people in the next two years. Our focus will be on cloud enabled apps and maintaining our global data centers at the same time.

Not only did the bank NOT save money, our expense rate actually went up -- WAY UP -- when we were supposed to be flat. Two of the three offshore vendors consistently blew SLA's, the number of major incidents we had per month went way up and we had several high profile and very long term customers of the bank leave.

In my career I've been through three offshoring attempts "to save money and improve service" and none has ever worked. Two of those employers I left when I saw the writing on the wall. This is the first time I've been through an offshoring effort and survived long enough to see an employer admit they f'ed up and re-shore jobs back to America. 1,000 very good paying jobs I might add.

I never thought I'd see the day.

103 posted on 12/29/2019 7:06:32 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Simple fix:
Passa law that requires in the case os any outsourcing of jobs all executive and senior management positions must be replaced by foreign workers before the first non management employee is replaced by a foreign worker.

In addition, H-1B visas shall be limited to executive positions.


106 posted on 12/29/2019 7:30:48 PM PST by oldbill
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My company has started to hire many people from India.
I am waiting for someone to take my job. They starting to come up with a point system now. I bet it is designed to fire the older more costly employee and they will be replaced by Bob from Kansas. Bangalore, Kansas that is.....


109 posted on 12/29/2019 7:51:55 PM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....)
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Dear All

ATT depends on spectrum rights in the United States granted by the FCC to them as an “American” corporation.

These rights are so valuable, they will pay tens of billions for the bandwidth.

We need only petition the FCC vehemently to revoke the rights and give them to a non-outsourcing company and ATT will run screaming from their craven mistake.

From ATT’s own site:”Spectrum: Lifeblood of the Wireless Industry”

https://policyforum.att.com/issue/spectrum/

We can burn them down.


112 posted on 12/29/2019 7:57:17 PM PST by Regulator
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U.S. companies are forcing workers to train their own foreign replacements

Been going on for several decades now.

They tie your severance package to how well you train your "replacement". Of course the reason those people work cheap is because they can't do what you can do in the first place.

You are actually better off emotionally just telling them where to shove their package. And you will beat the rush. While your former co-workers are spending their time trying to train the untrainable you can be job hunting.

120 posted on 12/29/2019 10:15:53 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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Didn’t work well for Boeing.


122 posted on 12/29/2019 10:32:42 PM PST by NorseViking
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I would NOT force a man to train his replacement!

It would not matter to me if my business failed and I went broke because I could no longer compete with those who would do such a thing.

There is such a thing as honor, and doing a thing such as this would strip you of every last shred of honor. :-/

The answer is to require, by law, that foreign replacements are payed as much as their American counterparts.

I have no problem with a foreign tech expert being brought in if his skills are desperately needed.


123 posted on 12/30/2019 12:11:09 AM PST by Bobalu (Donald Trump is a necessary and glorious bastard.)
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I would imagine that being “forced” to train a replacement might end up with some “selective” training...


125 posted on 12/30/2019 4:07:31 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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This is old news. The H-1B abuse of US workers started in the 1990’s.


130 posted on 12/30/2019 6:35:57 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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It’s time to pull back on insane ‘legal’ immigration too...


137 posted on 12/30/2019 6:59:15 AM PST by GOPJ (The democrat party is the party of 'elites' and 'victim groups'... https://i.imgur.com/4EtAc29.png1)
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