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1 posted on 12/28/2019 11:42:34 PM PST by Jyotishi
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Pope Francis has said that speech should never be used in order to convince a non-believer of the truths of the Catholic Faith...

Then the Catholic church is gonna need a lot of ####ing mimes in the coming years :)

I have a long fuse and defended this guy from slander for a long time.

Slander away.


2 posted on 12/28/2019 11:55:55 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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good grief...


3 posted on 12/28/2019 11:56:43 PM PST by trailboss800
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So we’re changing a successful business model after 2000 years?


4 posted on 12/28/2019 11:56:47 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirt

Matthew 28:19


5 posted on 12/28/2019 11:58:16 PM PST by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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Speaking of own personal experience from his native country of Argentina, Francis said. "In Argentina there is a small group of closed-minded Catholics who do not want Jews, do not want Muslims, but this group . . . I have never liked it, is a group that is on the fringe, they have a cultural magazine but they do not have impact in society."

Gossip is a sin. A big one.

6 posted on 12/28/2019 11:59:17 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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The Vicar of Christ apparently knows better than Christ. Time to get a scissors and cut Mark 16:14-16 out of Scripture:

14 Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen. 15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

7 posted on 12/29/2019 12:02:05 AM PST by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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You know the Catholic church is going through changes when the Pope increasingly sounds like a heretic. In fact, his heresies are now verging on apostasy.


8 posted on 12/29/2019 12:07:31 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? John 11:25-26

(Jesus proselytizing)


9 posted on 12/29/2019 12:09:00 AM PST by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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I’m not a big fan of this pope, but I did a search and the only other records I can find of this talk at the high school do not say anything about proselytizing. I wonder if the statements related in this article are true representations of what he said. Can you find any other place which records these thoughts from that talk?


10 posted on 12/29/2019 12:34:35 AM PST by Rocky
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This guy Francis is a bit of a goof-ball.


12 posted on 12/29/2019 1:12:12 AM PST by Henry Cavendish
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Anti-Pope. /spit


13 posted on 12/29/2019 1:13:19 AM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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Who is this man ?


17 posted on 12/29/2019 1:18:58 AM PST by HollyB
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At this point in history where forces of secularization are working overtime, this Pope is attempting to further secularize The Catholic Church. He is part of the battle that has been raging in The RCC between the left and the right ever since Vatican II. If you watch him, his public statements are usually very politically charged, frequently championing the leftist political agenda and just as often they are aimed at conservatives within The RCC. He is very simply creating discord within The RCC and the world at large for the sake for his own petty political agenda. It is a terrible spectacle. That is apparently the character of this man.


21 posted on 12/29/2019 1:54:18 AM PST by McCarthysGhost (q)
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Oh the irony.

Then he needs to practice that philosophy and SHUT UP.

We dont need to hear his words again. He can just show us by example.
Like climate change. He should never use an automobile, airplane or electricity again

Immigrants. Until he fills every vacant spot in every Catholic Church, shut up preaching about welcoming illega immigrants.


22 posted on 12/29/2019 2:18:52 AM PST by Josa
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Matthew 28:18-20 “And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, ‘All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. Go therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the world’.”

I won’t analyze or even worry about this Pope’s exact words. Mark said it clearly enough. I’m firmly convinced that if God wants us to change this approach, He will tell us unambiguously.


23 posted on 12/29/2019 2:36:01 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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If that is what he said then the Catholic Church might want to poison another Pope. On the other hand though how much do they wish to pull all faiths in under one banner? To do so they have to deny the uniqueness of Christ, His mission and His commission.


26 posted on 12/29/2019 2:51:05 AM PST by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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31 posted on 12/29/2019 3:05:51 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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So the actual disciples of Jesus were not disciples of Jesus? If you read the book of Acts, they did plenty of proselytizing.


32 posted on 12/29/2019 3:27:46 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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Well, in their absence so far, here are the usual excuses offered by certain nasty and dishonest Freepers in defense of the Popester...
34 posted on 12/29/2019 3:31:33 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Remember when “Is the pope Catholic” was an expression meaning of course, rather than a serious question?


37 posted on 12/29/2019 3:42:26 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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