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National Guardsman Breaks Rank On Dems Virginia Gun Control: ‘We Will Not Comply’
Daily Sounder.com ^ | December 22, 2019 | William Addison

Posted on 12/23/2019 2:17:25 AM PST by WWG1WWA

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To: WWG1WWA

WWG1WWA wrote:

“Good article. I hear that the Virginia miltia has spread to other states. We all know what they want and no one will go down without a fight.

Thank God for PDJT. He has already stated that he would federalize the National Guard if Northam pulls this stunt.”

Can you find and post the link to PDJT’s statement?


101 posted on 12/23/2019 7:23:00 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: CodeToad

That Is
The “Magic!”


102 posted on 12/23/2019 7:26:46 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: WWG1WWA
When you just signed up to get some free tuition and now they want you to kick down doors and confiscate weapons. 😮
103 posted on 12/23/2019 7:28:32 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CodeToad

It’s only fair.


104 posted on 12/23/2019 7:39:05 AM PST by SIDENET (ISAIAH 5:20)
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To: WWG1WWA

Yup. A governor cannot “federalize” anything as Democrat Governor Wallace (yes, leftidiots, Wallace was a democrat) found out in 1963.


105 posted on 12/23/2019 7:42:15 AM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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To: piytar

And Gov. Orval Faubus of AR found out in 1957 about who has the last word on NG.


106 posted on 12/23/2019 7:46:35 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: WWG1WWA

If the Virginia National Guard is called up, can’t Trump commandeer them away from the governor?


107 posted on 12/23/2019 7:47:09 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Leaning Right

Several governors have tried this in the past. See some of the other posts on this thread. It’s clear: the President’s orders control.


108 posted on 12/23/2019 7:53:23 AM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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To: wastoute

If the guard is activated, then possibly Trump can call the same guard to federal service and give orders to stand down?


109 posted on 12/23/2019 7:53:34 AM PST by lecram (Marcel L'Heureux)
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To: ConservativeMind

Yes. See Orval Faubus, 1957.


110 posted on 12/23/2019 7:54:51 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: WWG1WWA

Looks like VA needs to be Hong Konged.


111 posted on 12/23/2019 7:58:54 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: WWG1WWA

He went too far in his description of martial law. McEacham has come all over his three-piece suit.


112 posted on 12/23/2019 8:01:17 AM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained)
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To: WWG1WWA
Deprivation Of Rights Under Color Of Law

Summary:

Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.

For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.

The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.

TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

Also

Conspiracy Against Rights

Summary:

Section 241 of Title 18 is the civil rights conspiracy statute. Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree together to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the Unites States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same). Unlike most conspiracy statutes, Section 241 does not require that one of the conspirators commit an overt act prior to the conspiracy becoming a crime.

The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.

TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 241

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;...

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

Note the parts about the death penalty. "Sic Semper Tyrannis,"

113 posted on 12/23/2019 8:11:25 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: WWG1WWA

Our founding fathers are spinning in their graves.


114 posted on 12/23/2019 8:16:38 AM PST by bgill
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Then remove the mayor. He is violating his oath of office.


115 posted on 12/23/2019 8:26:09 AM PST by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: WWG1WWA

Respectfully disagree. Labeling oneself to be exempt from Federal Law, that is Constitutionally aligned, is lawless. Same with ‘sanctuary cities’ for illegals. It shouldn’t matter if you agree with the issue or not.

That said, this Governor should be arrested and charged with violating the civil rights of every Virginian - along with anyone else that is responsible for this ‘law’.


116 posted on 12/23/2019 8:27:49 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: WWG1WWA

One test. We will see what happens here first. There have been other tests but this would be a major one. In smaller tests people have given up their weapons without much more than a whimper.

3% of the population that are queer have managed to get control in their interests at the expense of our pirnciples.

13% of the population that are black have managed to get control in their interests at the expense of others.

What percentage of conservatives will it take to prevent the left from destroying the Constitution and many of our rights and liberties? Think 2024.

In a map of Presidential, House and Senate control since inception the grid is predominately blue, democrap of course, though the Presidency has been relatively balanced in duration. No Republican control or dominance has lasted very long. In modern times democrap regimes have brought us the feral income tax under Wilson, the New Deal under Roosevelt, the civil rights bills under Johnson, Carter’s moral equivalent of war and not much else, NAFTA under Clintoon and a lot of corruption, ACA and wholesale destruction and abuse of opponents under Obammy. Republicans have not been altogether magnificent though; Nixon gave us inflation, baseline budgeting, EPA, OSHA etc. Little Bush gave us TSA and FISA all in the name of protecting us.

This is the most complete and convenient map of political control I could find:

http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/wp-content/uploads/Federal_Debt_1901-2010.png

The trend of democraps established with obammy is more abuse of the right and destruction of the Constitution and liberty. His successors are even more radical than he was.

What are we prepared to do in ‘24? What will we be up against?


117 posted on 12/23/2019 8:43:52 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: iontheball

“Troopers on patrol can call in your tag number, determine if you are a registered gun owner and try to then use a pretext (ruse) to stop you. Then the fun really begins.”

Or they can target gun friendly states and presume these drivers are engaged in gun smuggling to liberal states, who always blame other states for their own gun crime.

Drivers in cars with SC, GA, TN, AL, MS, or even NC tags should expect to be pulled over because I-95 will become a fishing pond for the VA state police. Best to leave your guns at home after mid January 2020.


118 posted on 12/23/2019 8:44:07 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Leaning Right
And that would lead to an interesting situation. Suppose the Virginia governor activates the Guard to confiscate guns. Then President Trump federalizes the Guard, and tells them to stand down. Then what?

The Guard is stood up. The President can only involuntarily federalize the Guard under limited circumstances. Any time I go on any kind of active duty (Title 10/32), My orders start with: "With permission of the governor of Texas, you are ordered to..."
119 posted on 12/23/2019 8:52:18 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: qaz123
I do not want to see anything happen to any one of them. That includes one of them spraining an ankle slipping off a curb.

But if you want to keep your omelet you're going to break some ankles.

120 posted on 12/23/2019 8:56:11 AM PST by Buttons12
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