Posted on 12/09/2019 6:13:16 AM PST by FRinCanada2
Republicans opposed it, Collins and Gaetz I think because they knew Nadler just wanted to run to a press interview before they got their turn.
CBS Garret saying this is different than Clinton. No dispute there...but here it is very different.
Having the dem lawyer drone on about crumbs of circumstance adding up to a pile of crumbs is not going to sway the low info crowd.
I haven’t watched it either! You know the RATS will vote for impeachment no matter what!
nadler has denied subpoena to question Schiff
Mr Castor is on now. Wish he had a voice for radio because he certainly has a face for radio. Although I’m sure he’s very knowledgeable.
“it has just got to be make believe.”
Like so much in America and the world today.
How many genders now? Blue ribbons for attending? Is the Pope Catholic? Want a Tide Pod? How about muffin girls? Basement dwellers and pajama boys? Tattoos? Piercings? Safe spaces? Faggots reading to children at libraries? Live-birth abortion? Spirit cooking? Epstein Island?
Our Congress is just more symptoms of the disease.
That does not surprise me at all!
The FOX Trump haters Chis Wallace and Juan Williams are out doing them selves today... they are full blown for impeachment and that this hearing proves it. Both are as waste of air.
If this farce they are calling a hearing goes on unchallenged and is allowed to set an example for the future the government for the people and by the people is done. How long before they try to revoke the second amendment?
He has difficulty reading his prepared statement. He called Turley President Turley many times
btw, I don’t understand why you have to see both of these guys read from statements TWICE
Nothing new is said
That is exactly why I won’t watch. I appreciate your post and summary.
Don’t put the remote through the TV screen.
The Rats are pure evil. There is no good or decency in them.
wish the camera would show Nadler. He must be dozing off by now.
bkmk
No. It was Owen Shroyer from InfoWars. Alex Jones’ protege.
Kent warned Biden about Hunters involvement with Burisma. I think Biden recently claimed no one warned him
Security Assistance. . .there are rules and the president is bound by law to make sure all Security Assistance (Foreign Military Sales) programs are conducted efficiently, cleanly (no corruption) and support US national security.
The dem council made a stupid statement saying there was no US national Security at risk so the president’s call was impeach-worthy. That is silly. . .US national security is the SOLE reason we engage in Security Assistance/FMS.
That council is ignorant (at best) and a liar (at worst).
Trump had/has a legal responsibility to ensure SA/FMS programs are in support of US national security and to certify corruption was under control or being rooted out.
THAT was why Trump legally and in accordance with his responsibility, called the Ukraines new president. . .to make sure the new president’s statements to be the anti-corruption president was true and not just words.
Here is an extract from a draft paper on why we do SA/FMS:
US international arms sales (FMS) are severely restricted by the Foreign Assistance Act (FAA), section 505, and the Arms Export Control Act (AECA), section 3 (22 U.S.C. 2753) and section 4 (22 U.S.C. 2754). Additional controls are defined in countless other policy manuals and service-specific instructions, as well as mandated in the sales contract—LOA.
Why we do FMS:
1. “Access.” The sale of FMS kit and/or capability requires political access to a country’s leadership. Before a FMS sale may proceed, political considerations affecting the current and forecast geo-political environment takes place. If a country decides to establish ties and/or expand relations with the US, then FMS is an excellent way forward to accomplish this goal. Purchasing US military gear is a highly visible political-military step that is noticed world-wide. An FMS sale therefore needs to initially be explored at the highest-level of government—US and the customer country. During initial FMS discussions through delivery and follow-on support, political and military relationships are developed and trust established. Additionally, a “total package approach” (TPA) to FMS is agreed and this ensures long-term political, military and physical access to the country as the program is introduced, activated, maintained and upgraded.
2. “Influence.” FMS expands ties and strengthens ties between the US and the customer country (“Small nations when treated as equals become the firmest of allies” ). These closer ties and stronger relations allows the US to exercise greater influence though political, military and physical means.
Additionally, International Military Education and Training (IMET), is one such avenue of influence. Through IMET, foreign political and military customers attend service school and learn about human rights, civilian control over the military, among other Western attributes, consequently, foreign servicemen are influenced and shaped by US values and traditions.
Influence may also be exercised by suspending deliveries, withholding technical and training support and retaining payments made by the customer (no refunds) if the customer country behaves in a manner that violates the terms and conditions of the FMS contract or act counter to US national security interests.
In addition to the suspension of deliveries, termination of technical and training support will result in US-supplied products grinding to a halt, as military kit requires a high level of maintenance and support, as well as constant training to remain proficient.
3. “Infrastructure,” a vastly important aspect of the US international arms business. Today, the US engages in FMS as a way to keep the defense industry alive. Most NDAA expenditures are for maintenance, modifications, upgrades and personnel. Consequently, new product manufacturing and research and development are limited in scope. This threatens the defense industrial manufacturing base. With FMS, research and development continues and the defense industry remains viable and productive.
The US defense industry and the US government work to ensure they operate within the law, as oversight and reporting requirements are many and in plain view (except for classified programs, they come under different laws and reporting requirements).
Basically, access, influence and infrastructure are the benefits of SA/FMS programs.
Trumps call to the Ukraine was appropriate because he has a DUTY to review ALL FMS countries, too include the Ukraine, to ensure the kit and training are in accordance with the law. Trump would have been in violation if he DID NOT check on the Ukraine because of the well-known corruption that was underfoot.
He was rattled. I only wonder what would have happened if Gaetz and others had persisted and amped it up. Would Nadler have had the sgt-at-arms haul them out bodily?
Yes indeed. Couple of observations on Yovanovych.....
she wears the CLASSIC communist color combo (just like liz warren who apparently never washes her “ensemble” or has multiple copies) Red blouse, black top. and.... Red overcoat walking in. It’s not subliminal— it is self-strengthening for her. She was hiding a LOT in the hearing, and LYING... a LOT! Star witness for Schiff. Schiff’s “staff” composed of Eric Ciaramella’s buddies who are ready to step in as fake “whistleblowers” (who cannot exist in any fashion, since they cannot BE whistleblowers, under the Statute— yet another Schiff lying fairy tale).
Second observation on next post comment
Do you suppose Nadler wears Depends?
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