Posted on 11/26/2019 4:10:05 AM PST by Libloather
RUSH: I have so many people asking me, Rush, is this stuff Im hearing true? That Pelosi may be looking for a way out of actually having an impeachment vote? Folks, Ive got three stories about this, including polling data from the anointed one, Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight.com, which indicates that support for impeachment is plummeting, and it dropped as the Schiff show was ongoing.
And on the other side of it, not only is support for impeachment dropping -here it is, FiveThirtyEight: Support for impeachment topped out at 47.7% late October, its down to 41%, six points down over the last three weeks. YouGov is among the polls registering the decline, with independent support for impeachment dropping from 39% down to 35%. An Emerson College survey found an even more extreme flip among independents.
Now, you know, the thing about the Drive-By Media that you have to be on the lookout for, they use polling. So here you have Nate Silver chronicling how the impeachment prospect is dropping, the public sentiment for impeachment is plummeting. Is that true, or is it an attempt to manipulate us? Well, there are three different polls that Nate Silver is analyzing here. So Im gonna take all this under advisement, cause we talk about polls here frequently, and some of them we cite with acceptance, and others we are automatically dubious of.
And you have to be consistent with this. I mean, you cant sit there and pick the polls that you like and then start heralding them if you have, like I do, an overall distrust of the genre itself for a host of reasons. But I dont have any doubt that the American publics desire for impeachments dropping cause there was nothing in these hearings to excite anybody.
Where were the tapes? Where was John Dean? Where was the evidence of the break-in? They say this is Watergate redux. Where is all the stuff that we had in Watergate? There isnt any. All we have is a bunch of disgruntled civil servants who are upset that they were not utilized. Nobodys accusing them of lying, either. Why would all of these Trump supporters accuse every one of these civil servants of lying?
Nobodys accusing them of lying. Were accusing them of being haughty, arrogant snobs that Trump doesnt trust for obviously brilliant common-sensical reasons.
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RUSH: Okay. Here we go. Washington Post Reporter: Were Hearing Behind the Scenes House Dems Are Getting Cold Feet on Impeachment. Politico: Vulnerable Democrats Spooked by GOP Impeachment Ad Onslaught - Democrats want the party to step up its defense. There are lots of examples today, not in polling data. The polling data is ancillary, but it may be causing the cold feet. Theres lots of stories of actual Democrats telling liberal Drive-By Media that they are very worried about this.
They know the case wasnt made. Folks, heres another thing. Theres something that every one of these people from Fiona Hill to Lieutenant Colonel Vindman (O say can you see?), and Bill Taylor and all these other people realize. Any other president that this group of people - call em whatever you, deep state, the establishment, the administrative state. Any other person would have been gone by now. The FBI and the intelligence community alone running this hoax against Donald Trump starting in 2016
Any other Republican, any other elected president who was targeted for destruction this way would long ago have been gone, would have long ago resigned, would have long ago sued for peace, said, I cant take it anymore. Im outta here. Trump is the only guy, and he has beaten them at every turn. He beat them with Eddie Gallagher here in the SEAL case. He has beat them back. Every effort they have tried - Robert Mueller XIV, you name it.
Trump has beaten every one of them back. Now there are stories in the New York and Washington media about how Trump is remaking Washington, and the premise of these stories is that official Washington is being left out, that Trump is forming a new kind of Washington that includes rogue outsiders, people like Rudy and other Trump appointees who are loyal to Trump as commander-in-chief.
Not Donald Trump the person, loyal to Trump as commander-in-chief. There are lots of stories - I have em in the Stack of Stuff today here - about how official Washington is worried as heck that Trump is changing Washington and getting away with it. I will guarantee you that Trump has inserted a type of energy into Washington these people havent seen in a while, and theyve tried to beat it back, and they havent. They havent been able to.
So how does Pelosi get out of this?
Well, I think theres a way. We already know the basic elements of it.
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RUSH: So heres to Pelosi. Heres how Pelosi gets out of this impeachment vote if she wants to. Not predicting this. But again to refresh your memory, I opened the program by noting that lots of people are asking me if I think there wont be a vote because lots of people are seeing - Ive got stories in the Stack myself.
Just to review, Washington Post: Were Hearing Behind The Scenes That More House Dems Are Getting Cold Feet About Impeachment. The phrase of the day, says the Washington Post reporter, over the weekend was cold feet.
Politico says that vulnerable Democrats, moderates who won election in 2018 in Trump districts, are watching in horror as Trump spends $8 million worth of ads attacking Democrats and impeachment in their home districts.
Politico claims the Democrats and their allies have only spent $2.7 million on pro-impeachment ads. Trump is dwarfing them with $8 million, which of course is a bunch of crap because you cant ignore the free media that Democrats get from New York Times, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, USA Today, you name it.
By the time you add all that free media up, its gonna dwarf whatever amount of money Trump is spending. But the fact of the matter is the Trump ads are effective in these districts, and these vulnerable Democrats are saying they are spooked by it, and they want not the impeachment to be canceled, they want the Democrats to step up their defense of these people.
So how could Pelosi do this? By the way, my instinct is that she cant. She cant not follow through with this. Shes got to have the vote, after everything theyve said about this. And Schiff continues to bleed all over everybody on TV about hes got the goods. Trumps misconduct is apparent. Everybody can see it. Theyre not walking back anything, even though the Drive-Bys are doing stories on nervous Nellie Democrats.
What is happening is the poll data is plummeting. Support for impeachment dropped in some polls up to eight points in the two weeks of the Schiff hearings. In no poll is support for impeachment expanding or increasing. And they all see this. And they are very poll-driven. So if Pelosi wanted to not have the vote, how could she do it? Heres what I think she could do.
I ran this by the Official Program Observer this morning, Mr. Snerdley, and he thinks that, Oh, God, yeah, I never thought - that might work. Heres how she could do it, folks. She could go on TV, call a press conference and tell a bunch of lies about how successful the hearings were. That weve got all of this evidence of bribery and extortion and praise to the hilt all of the civil servant left-wing liberal Democrat witnesses, extol their virtues to no end, praise them to the hilt, praise them by name, Lieutenant Colonel Vindman - O say can you see - Fiona Hill, Bill Taylor, George Kent, name em. Yovanovitch.
And then say that even if she were to get every Democrat in the House voting, the problem is that the process then goes to the Senate where the corrupt Republicans are in charge, where the Republican Party is going to not listen. This is Pelosi speaking, Im making up the words, but this would be her message. The Republican Party will openly defy the wishes and will of the American people as represented in the vote to impeach in the House of Representatives.
And in the trial, the Republicans will be able to call witnesses who will be able to distort and confuse and get away with it because the partisan Republicans who will do anything to protect Trump will be running the trial. And she can continue to set it up as whatever happens in the Senate will be illegitimate because of Republican partisanship, and then present that as the greatest problem facing America. Republican partisanship, Republican defense of Donald Trump. The Republicans refusal to stand up for the Constitution.
I mean, just ladle it on the Republicans and dont stop. And then tell her wacko, crazed base a truth, that the inherent problem of going to the Senate is that because of the partisanship of the evil Republicans, this president, who we have proven has violated his oath of office will be acquitted because of Republican partisanship, because Republicans will ignore the evidence just like they did with Kavanaugh. They will see to it that this president is protected.
And then she says, ladies and gentlemen, the last thing we want, the last thing this country needs, the last thing this country can put up with and tolerate is this president being acquitted. That would be an outrage to the Constitution. That would be an outrage to the American people. I simply will not participate in a process that ends with this president, who is as guilty as any president has ever been, I will not be part of a process that finds him not guilty. I simply cannot do that to America.
And because of the partisan Republicans, because of the mean-spirited Republicans, because of racist, bigoted, sexist homophobic Republicans - just really ladle it on - this president will be found not guilty, and that is something our country cannot withstand. And I, your speaker, will not put this country through that. Even on the day, she could say, even on those days where we care about God, God knows the president is guilty. But the Republicans who also know hes guilty will do everything they can to shield and protect him because he has corrupted them like he has our great country.
Now, would something like that fly with her wacko base? Thats a tough call. Cause her wacko base, they want Trump in jail. They want him shot at dawn. They want the absolute worst that they could imagine happening. So Pelosis chore, if theres anything to this, backing off on it, polling data showing less and less support, she doesnt have enough votes - remember shes got 218 votes, but she doesnt have 220.
Thats another thing the Washington Post story points out. If she does this shes gonna need 230 votes for this. She cant do this, bare minimum. I mean, this guys so guilty, if he is just obviously unequivocally guilty, she cant do this with the barest minimum of Democrats supporting it. So if she pulls back, could she pull this off by telling her wacko base that the absolute worst thing here would be for the president of the United States in an election year, by the way, to be found not guilty?
Theres another thing she could add. Because of the archaic old-fashioned rules of the Senate which will be enforced by the bigoted leader, Mitch McConnell, our great Democrat presidential candidates from the Senate will not be able to campaign during a trial. And the bigoted leader of the Republicans, Senator McConnell, has promised a six-week trial, and so our courageous Democrat presidential candidates would not be able to join the campaign trail during the precious early days of the primary season because they must stay in the Senate during the trial. I will not handicap my precious Democrat presidential candidates by making sure they cant campaign.
My point is shes got some avenues she could go down if there is anything to this not having a vote. And if she doesnt have a vote, then Schiff, you know, they might have to drag him off a ledge somewhere if there isnt a vote, either.
RUSH: Ill just tell you this, folks. I think Pelosi - with her buddies in the Drive-By Media and elsewhere - is already laying the blame, laying the groundwork for blaming Republican partisanship as her reason for withdrawing the vote to impeach. Its still a long shot, but I can see it happening out there.
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RUSH: Anyway, I mentioned the Pelosi possibility of an impeachment offering. How can she get out of this? And I gave you my theory as to how she could do it. And essentially, folks, it is to just pile on the Republicans as mean-spirited, bigoted partisans and how she just cant, she cant bring herself to have done all this work to prove the presidents bribery and extortion all to have these partisan, bigoted Republicans declare him not guilty. That that would be so damaging to America that she cant do it.
And also her precious Democrat Senators would not be allowed to campaign during a Senate trial for president. The reason I say this, I think theres a groundwork being built for this that the Republicans partisanship - it would be a tough sell for her. But in the last few weeks the media has been starting this Trump supporters are a cult narrative. Have you seen that? The use of the word cult to describe Trump supporters is an angry, hot, liberal way of saying partisanship, unmovable partisanship. A Trump cult, they dont care what he does. Theres no way they will not support him.
And Pelosi and the Democrats are putting this out that Trump supporters are a cult, meaning theyre unmovable, they are inflexible, and members of cults are obviously what else? Fools. Theyre idiots. Theyre stupid. And so Pelosi and her buddies are spreading this notion that Trump supporters are a cult.
And if she played it right - and, boy, shed have to thread the needle perfectly to bring this off without causing a revolt among her screwball base - but it would be a way for Pelosi to somewhat dissipate this rage, this negative energy toward her and the Democrat leadership that would exist if she cancels the vote.
But folks, shes between a rock and a hard place right now because the vote, if it was taken today, shed barely have the 218 that she needs, and she cant do this with 218 - well, she can. She can do anything she wants. But 218 with a whole lot of Democrats not voting for it, especially when there arent any Republicans at all voting for it.
And I heard Schiff on CNN Sunday, you know, why havent you had the vote yet? You know, CNN wants to vote. (imitating Schiff) I need to reflect further. I need to consult my constituents. I need to go home and consult my caucus, I need to consult the leadership, I need to consult What is there to consult? You guys think youve proved the case.
Theres also something else Pelosi knows, folks. They dont have the truth. Theres not one aspect of her hearings that have been the truth. Theres not one aspect of her hearings that have featured an impeachable offense, much less a bunch of them. Theres not one bit of evidence theyve produced that suggests bribery or extortion.
So their case has no evidence. And the minute it goes to trial in the Senate is when the evidence would be forthcoming. When Republicans can call witnesses, including Schiff, Schiff is a fact witness because he collaborated with the whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella. Schiff collaborated with Ciaramella, the whistleblower, to get all of this going. They put him under oath. He would refuse to show up.
What do they got to hide? Why wouldnt Schiff want to? If Schiffs got the goods on Trump, if Schiffs got unequivocal evidence of Trump misconduct, why wouldnt he want to show up in a Senate trial? But he wont. The point is Pelosi knows they are withholding all kinds of facts their own witnesses who testified in that basement room.
Mark Sandys deposition, Mark Meadows said in a tweet today: Mark Sandy deposition should be released immediately. Some of his answers provided important context, about everything they think theyve got Trump on, extortion, bribery, and all the rest of it.
Pelosi knows all this, is my point. Forget the made for TV statements of Trump being guilty of misconduct, bribery and extortion. She knows they dont have such evidence, and when they go to the Senate, thats gonna get exposed. So we shall see.
And, by the way, on this cult business, CNN headline: New Book Says There is a Cult of Trump. Washington Post: Republicans Convene the Cult of Trump. Enquirer.com: Impeachment Inquiry Proved America Cant be Saved from a Cult Called the GOP.
Its everywhere, theyre putting it out there. This is like that montage we had, gravitas, when Cheney was chosen to be veep by W. Cult. You look for it, youll see it. This is to set the stage that Republicans are so partisan, theyre so, so partisan, theyre angry, theyre dumb, theyre fools, nothing will ever, ever separate them from Trump.
So shes building toward this if she wants to somehow get on the off ramp. Im not predicting it, but Im just telling you how she could do it in my estimation.
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RUSH: Roy in Joplin, Missouri, Im glad you waited. Welcome, sir, to the EIB Network. Hi.
CALLER: Thank you much, Rush. My wife and I listen to you every day. We are both conservatives. And I thought with all the hearings and all the nonsense that the Democrats are doing, they should feel completely stupid cause they look stupid. Everybody here in southwest Missouri thinks, Man, they could have spent that money a lot better, helped the old people, helped the veterans, that sort of thing. Also, the senator (sic), Elijah Cummings, that died earlier? I heard him two weeks before he died on CBS make the statement that the only way Trump was gonna get back into office was over his dead body. Two weeks later, they were putting him in the ground.
RUSH: Uh, yes. Elijah Cummings, member of Congress, Maryland.
CALLER: Yes.
RUSH: I had forgotten that. I remember that Al Green, congressman, said, We gotta impeach Trump because if we dont, hell be reelected. I had forgotten that Elijah Cummings said that Trump would be reelected over his dead body - and, as Roy here points out, Elijah Cummings died. Huh!
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RUSH: Ryan in Anchorage, Alaska, its great to have you here, Ryan. How you doing, sir?
CALLER: Mega dittos, Russia, Rush, from the town that we affectionally he will called Los anchorage. As far as government policies go were a snowy San Francisco or a Seattle. Snerdley told me to get right to the point and I had a follow-up on your Pelosi one since Ive been sitting here listening. Ill get right to it.
Now, I understand the presidents kid with a stick and a beehive way of prodding opponents and throwing the media into a frenzy, and I really appreciate it. You know, I think Trump should type up a beautiful, signed certificate of appreciation to Adam Schiff thanking him for his rising approval ratings, and what is this, his fourth exoneration.
RUSH: Now, what do you think the impact would be?
CALLER: Obviously the media frenzy and, you know, they have to deny everything that Trump does. No matter what he does, they have to deny it, they have to refute it, they have to oppose it. So if hes thanking him, then it just throws the media into one more frenzy, by thanking Adam Schiff for his great numbers.
RUSH: Well, he could do that in a tweet. Now, you know, its interesting. I ran into some Trump supporters over the weekend, and here it came again. They love the guy, but its almost as though they say it by rote. Its almost as though they think they have to say it because saying theyre a Trump supporter, ah, its a little dicey, so to cover they say, I wish hes stop tweeting. They said this to me. Im the wrong person to say that to.
I said, You dont have to justify your support for Trump to me. It makes perfect sense. I support Trump.
Yeah, but I just wish hed stop tweeting.
Why?
Well, its just not presidential and it just
Let me tell you something. You know why he tweets?
Yeah, its just his personality.
No. Stop and think about it. It is the only way he can get his legitimate side of any story out there. Whens the last time you saw a story on the economy? Whens the last time you saw a story on consumer confidence on jobs, on rising wages? You dont see em. Trump has to tweet this stuff. Trump knows that his base is loyal. Its how he keeps the troops up. Its how he keeps the troops engaged. Look at him as a general or a commander.
Hes not tweeting simply because its his personality. Hes communicating. And its the only way much of what he tweets is ever out there. If he stopped doing it, then a vast majority of his side of every story would not ever be in the public domain. Like I think, was it this morning or one day last week, I think it was this morning he tweeted: Another record day on Wall Street, stock market was an all-time high. Thank me. Or enjoy, something like that. Nobodys talking about that.
The news about the stock market is how its on the verge of plunging, its on the verge of blowing up, its on the verge of evaporating. And then there are stories about how the economy is flimsy, its not really legitimate and so forth. Its the only way he can get his side out there. Its the only way he can respond, if he wants to, to the daily outrages in the impeachment hearing.
And I think most people say I wish he would stop tweeting as a way of eliminating what they think is gonna be criticism when they announce that theyre Trump supporters. A lot of people are afraid to do that. And some of them are legitimately afraid. Theres violence perpetrated against Trump supporters in some places. Trump supporters are the targets of intimidation. If theyre discovered, some of them are thrown out of restaurants, protested and so forth.
So when you have somebody say, Yeah, Im a Trump support, but I wish hed stop tweeting, its supposed to mitigate, mollify whoever doesnt like hearing that somebodys a Trump supporter. But you can forget him stopping tweeting. Hes not gonna stop tweeting. And if he did what you say, you know, put together an absolute like an accommodation or some sort of a sign of appreciation for Adam Schiff, he does that, I think, each and every time he sends a tweet out about these people. Make no mistake, it irritates them, cause they cant control it.
All they can do is mock it and make fun of it, and run stories, Trump continues to lie to his cult following. Now that Ive pointed that out to you, I want you to pay attention, I want you to notice the increasing frequency with which Trump supporters are referred to as a cult.
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RUSH: I dont believe what Im seeing. CNN is doing a story that does not involve Donald Trump being a criminal. CNNs doing a story that is not about Washington. CNNs doing a story that has nothing to do with Donald Trump needing to be kicked out of office. I havent seen CNN do a story that does not involve Trump in months. Theyre doing a story about a sheriff in Alabama who was killed. I didnt know CNN knew where Alabama was except on college football Saturdays.
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RUSH: Kevin in Howell, New Jersey. Hello, sir.
CALLER: Its an honor to speak with you, sir.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: Before I get to my point, I just want to let you know my grandfather was a die-hard Rush fan. He was hard-of-hearing - and when he would listen, the whole block wasnt allowed to make noise.
RUSH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER: Every day.
RUSH: Thank you. I understand that, by the way.
CALLER: To my point, you said a few different reasons Im sorry. Im a little bit nervous. You said a few different reasons why Pelosi might back - not why she might back off, about how she might explain to her base how she might back off. But she knew all those reasons before she started the impeachment trial. Shes gonna claim that she didnt realize how -
RUSH: No, theres one thing she didnt know. Theres one thing they miscalculated. This is an excellent question. Theres one thing they miscalculated. They miscalculated everything, but they thought the polling numbers for impeachment would skyrocket. Thats what they were banking on. They have misread the public on Trump from the get-go, and they thought that would be the foundation on which all of this could be built, and its gone the other way. Great, great question.
Cracks me up every time. Will San Fran Gran Nan watch the Trump rally in Sunrise, Florida tonight? Must see TV...
The same people who are so “outraged” over criticism of LTC Vindman had no problem with the way Lieutenant General Michael Flynn was railroaded by the deep state.
The way out for Pelosi comes down to two choices. She can either wander around the streets of the South side of Chicago on any given weekend or she can wander out to the middle of the Golden Gate Bridge and practice flying.
Either way would be fine by me.
Selective outrage ... the ends justify the means.
Mr Vindman is a classic example of why our government is too big to succeed. This unelected [**********] believes that he and his ilk are in charge of US-Ukrainian foreign policy, dam* the elected POTUS.
works for me...
Of course that's not what happened at all, the few people that watched were bored and unpersuaded. Most didn't even bother to watch at all. And by the end of the hearings support for Impeachment had dropped and the Republican party was more unified in their support of Trump than ever.
Of course democrats and the media could not bring themselves to admit they failed. Some analyst on CNN last night was actually blaming the public saying that they were all members of the "Trump Cult". Then another democrat Representative on MSNBC was calling for a "redo" of the hearings, assuming, I guess, that they think the problem was just with their messaging and if they put on the same boring dog and pony show a second time people will actually watch the same witnesses give the same answer and by some miracle turn against Trump.
The main problem that I see with this, is that Harakiri (aka Seppuku)is normally carried out by Samauri. Samauri are men of honor. Pelosi knows nothing of honor. Or integrity. Or decency.
Rush is wrong.
They don’t have the votes.
Does anyone here think that a censure motion would be an out for her? I have heard that would a couple of sources on the net.
No, they don’t have the votes. And by all polling trends more are going wobbly by the hour. This is all careening towards an Emily Litella conclusion.
Absolutely nothing in the Constitution gives Congress the right to censure a co-equal branch of the Government.
I have heard that chatter, too. Exactly what grounds would there be to “censure” President Trump for? Winning an election? Restoring our economy? Rebuilding our military?
I would suggest that these people (Commies & Never Trumpers) go stand on some busy railroad tracks for a while. Do the country a real favor.
Jackson, Tyler & Lincoln were censured. Its a “official reprimand” but it has no real constitutional meaning. Its effectively a “note home to their mother” that they were naughty!
And since the branches are co-equal Trump is perfectly free to censure them in return.
My bad ! Thank You
To All Samurai Living and Dead, My Apology. I had no intention of degrading You.
I just wanted pelousy to be gutted.
Jackson, Tyler & Lincoln were censured. Its a official reprimand but it has no real constitutional meaning. Its effectively a note home to their mother that they were naughty!
It goes on their permanent record!
I concur.
Last night I saw on Dobbs, Schiff being interviewed by Jake Tapper.
Tapper asked BugEyes straight out...”are you going to impeach the President?”
I could not believe my eyes and ears when I saw Schiff’s eyes bugged out a little farther and he said...no...sputtered...”Well, Jake, I’m going to check with my constituents and my colleagues to see what they think.”
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT? HE CAN’T MAKE UP HIS MIND...AFTER THREE YEARS OF POUNDING IMPEACHMENT, IMPEACHMENT, IMPEACHMENT.
Suddenly, he has to ASK HIS MOMMIE.
The look on idiot Jake’s face was memorable.
On a personal basis, I think the group of witnesses Schiff brought forth were the most unsightly, unsympathetic, uncharismatic bunch of losers that exist in the world.
THAT, DID A GREAT DEAL TO SEAL THE DEAL WITH THE VOTERS.
I thought I would hate the hearings...turns out they were THE BEST.
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