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The Navy acknowledges UFOs — so why aren't they on Washington's radar?
The Hill ^ | Christopher Mellon

Posted on 11/04/2019 7:00:28 AM PST by RoosterRedux

In what could be a precursor to further stunning developments, the U.S. Navy has publicly acknowledged that the advanced aircraft depicted in several recently declassified gun-camera videos are UFOs, or what the Navy prefers to call “Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon” (UAPs). “The Navy designates the objects contained in these videos as unidentified aerial phenomena,” acknowledged Joseph Gradisher, spokesman for the deputy chief of naval operations, referring to the bizarre vehicles that have brazenly operated in restricted U.S. military airspace.

Strangely, this shocking announcement seems to have scarcely been noticed by Congress or the Trump administration. Is the information too jarring and radical to process? Are U.S. government officials in denial? One can only wonder, given the glaring disconnect between the Navy’s announcement and the limited government actions to protect U.S. military personnel and the nation as a whole.

The vehicles observed and recorded by U.S. Navy fighter pilots seem impervious to altitude or the elements; they are able to maneuver above 80,000 feet; they can hover and then instantly accelerate to supersonic and even hypersonic speeds; they have very low radar cross-sections and use a means of propulsion and control that does not appear to involve combustion, exhaust, rotors, wings or flaps.

Since the Navy asserts these are not U.S. aircraft, we are confronted by the daunting prospect that a potential adversary of the United States has achieved the ability to render our most sophisticated aircraft and air defense systems obsolete...

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I’ve interviewed numerous active-duty and retired military personnel who have encountered these mysterious vehicles. Without exception they express grave concern for their colleagues and near disbelief that our government is not reacting more vigorously.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aatip; doesntmeanalien; fringe; josephgradisher; tictac; uaps; ufo; ufos; usn; usnavy
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To: CondorFlight

Another explanation would be that the AN/APG-79 ASEA Radars on the Navy’s Super Hornets are picking up atmospheric anomalies. When you’re playing with radars that are that sensitive, there’s a real possibility that what you are seeing isn’t real. IOW’s it may be electronic ‘noise’.


61 posted on 11/04/2019 9:06:22 AM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Tallguy

It would seem unlikely that radars in various locations (planes, ships, and subs) would pick up the same noise at the same time, and the videos appear to show well-defined solid objects, not noise.


62 posted on 11/04/2019 9:19:33 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: null and void

re: “Rumor is that a powerful radar set at White Sands disabled the one that crashed at Roswell.”

Who built it?

The lowest bidder on a mil contract?

Where are those contractors based? (It ain’t WS)

And WHY was it out at White Sands - what’s to be “seen” out there? Russians? That far inland? You got BIGGER problems than UFOs at that rate ...


63 posted on 11/04/2019 9:30:02 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: _Jim

White Sands is a test site. Do you seriously think we’d deploy a radar set to Europe or the arctic without testing it to within an inch of its life well away from prying eyes?

Where better to test it than somewhere you could launch missiles and track them, hmmm? Cape Canaveral with the constant Soviet trawler presence?

IF the rumors are true, AND IF we actually did cause a flying saucer to crash while attempting to track an unknown with our spiffy new radar, it was as much of a surprise to us as it was to them!


64 posted on 11/04/2019 10:05:25 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: RoosterRedux

65 posted on 11/04/2019 10:13:06 AM PST by MacNaughton
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To: RoosterRedux
Told ya...


66 posted on 11/04/2019 10:24:10 AM PST by skimbell
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To: miliantnutcase
I watched that in its entirety last week. It was excellent.

Was particularly surprised and impressed by the positive things CMDR Fravor had to say about Bob Lazar.

67 posted on 11/04/2019 10:27:26 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Vaduz

Why would you send test planes against a US Navy carrier battle group, twice and risk damage to that group and or your test vehicle? You would have to assume they already know what can and cannot track the test object and why risk 6K people in the battle group seeing it when you can fly it over area 51 or the like and do the same tracking test?

I suspect they really do not know what these objects are and this is their way of CYA. Hey we told you and if there comes point in the future there should be an acknowledgment of these craft the USN can say we warned you.


68 posted on 11/04/2019 10:29:42 AM PST by sarge83
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To: nuke_road_warrior

Romulan cloaking device


69 posted on 11/04/2019 11:42:29 AM PST by brooklin
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To: null and void

hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha!
Great one. Dr. Who strikes again!
70 posted on 11/04/2019 12:00:37 PM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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To: Boogieman
"Classified stuff is compartmentalized..."

There was an SCI project I was peripherally involved in supporting a lifetime ago. Had I met and told any of the people on this forum about it back then you would have all insisted that I was a nut that spent too much time reading ridiculous novels. Much of that specific thing is declassified now but its not as though the DoD sends you a letter telling you that you can start talking about anything so I don't. The thing is, I know that now you all know about this particular thing. Were I able to point it out you would tell me that anyone could have guessed that it was military in origin which suggests I don't know nuthin. It was the great (great? great?) grandparent to an unclassified tool that many of you use on a daily basis. If I were to spill the beans to someone now they would just assume Im making up stories to somehow aggrandize myself as though I was involved in inventing it when anyone can pull up the wiki page and clearly see who the "real" inventor was and its recent date of invention. Again, I wind up just being a nut so why would I say anything to anyone in the first place?

71 posted on 11/04/2019 12:10:22 PM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Christopher Mellon (the author of this article) served 20 years in the federal government.”

First assume that a Government employee is dumb as a box of rocks. They have spent years avoiding learning practical skillsets.

We see now the sheer stupidity of leaders of the CIA, FBI and DOJ.

That said, until a UFO shows up in a museum I can visit, it is fun speculation at best.


72 posted on 11/04/2019 12:12:18 PM PST by TheNext (I Am I Think)
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To: TheNext
Actually, I don't think Chris Mellon (Mellon family scion, Colby College and Yale) is dumb as a box of rocks. And I don't think Cmdr David Fravor, one of the Super Hornet pilots who has seen this phenomenon up close and personal, and other Naval aviators like him are dumb as a box of rocks, either.

This is an unknown element that is interfering with our national defense (hence Chris Mellon's involvement as a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and later for Security and Information Operations).

That said, we don't yet know what the hell is going on here. But thinking this experience will be resolved by their (these UFO's) display in a museum is probably a bit misguided and myopic.

73 posted on 11/04/2019 12:44:00 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Boogieman

Sorry, distracted by an important call. The point of my post is that we all know that there are secret projects but society, including most FReepers, is not willing to accept the possibilities until its in front of them and then its just old news.


74 posted on 11/04/2019 12:46:48 PM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: pepsionice

UFO advanced technology, from 100 million years in the future, would appear as magic to the common lay person.

But a scientific Engineer would see Government secret projects, as just normal tech in the spectrum of science.

Common lay people erroneously believe Government secret tech is so well advanced. It is not.

The advancement all depends upon the education level lens you see things through.


75 posted on 11/04/2019 12:49:59 PM PST by TheNext (I Am I Think)
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To: fatman6502002

If we have equipment like this for real, then there may be other worldly intelligences, if they truly exist, and are monitoring, starting to get worried.

In other words, if aliens weren’t visiting us too often before (because we were like ants and not likely to get beyond the moon,) they will be visiting us now. Having that type of tech means that we could leap into space to a very substantial degree and go knocking on their doors. I don’t think they would like that very much....


76 posted on 11/04/2019 1:07:09 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Wizdum

Did you know that they coincidentally still do gravity research at that same location?

Did you know that they likely got their head start from even earlier work started by someone in the US?

YouTube has several videos of the actual researchers in their labs from 40/50s doing work related to this. Im guessing that too many believe that watching real footage of real science is “conspiracy theory” stuff.

There is all kinds of official documentation of the reality of what we have done and are presently doing. Its not space aliens and it certainly isn’t interdimensional demons. Its us. The Russians had at least the initial documentation on this research for a long time. The Chinese likely have stolen an updated version by now. There is no one to hide its reality from anymore exceptbut the people.

There is a change coming that will effect all of us more profoundly than the invention of the combustion engine and a lot of very wealthy people are going to lose their position in this world. Yes, I know, “We’ve all heard this before,” but this time its quite different. Those that cant see it might want to start by trying to come at it from a different direction and figure out why Trump chose now to take on the fed/float hard currency.


77 posted on 11/04/2019 1:26:16 PM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yeah, Lazar was treated as a black sheep in previous appearances on JRE.


78 posted on 11/04/2019 2:07:25 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: null and void

Neck is too thick


79 posted on 11/04/2019 2:08:35 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: setter
a retired Air Force officer on Fox recently said his sources told him they are US experimental stuff and they will boggle the mind.

I agree. It's been what, almost 60 years since the A-12?

A-12 ARCHANGEL CIA PROJECT OXCART

80 posted on 11/04/2019 2:25:22 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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