[robowombat]

What gives with the establishment. That sorry joke Biden was one of the leaders in blocking Pres. Ford's attempt at last minute funding for South Viet Nam. When the norks won half of Congress seemed dizzy with joy. Every time since any US military operation has been met with cries of 'another Viet Nam' and 'quagmire' from much of the political establishment. G W Bush and his administration were called every epithet possible for the Iraq invasion. So why all the moaning and hysteria when DJT orders uniformed personnel to leave Syria (not a large number). A significant part is that the establishment has learned a few things from Gramsci, without ever knowing his name. One of these is declare your opponents wrong on every thing they do or propose while being careful to never offer any alternative. Constant negative criticism damages one's opponent. Or rather did before DJT who punches back and calls out the constant negative complainers

[ConservativeWarrior]

Are we still talking about the 25-50 US soldiers in Syria?

Hysteria.

[kiryandil]

GOP-Democrats In Revolt Over Syria

Conservatives don't give a crap about RINO war-mongering in the Middle East.

[FLT-bird]

The American people are with President Trump in this. We never had any kind of mandate to go into Syria. It is not vital to our national interests. Get out. Stop constantly meddling in every conflict overseas. Focus on taking care of our needs rather than others.

[PGR88]

Trump is giving the stupid GOP a major campaign issue and bridge to capture a huge amount of independents, mainstream Democrats and even raise doubts in some Leftist ones (at least those who take their anti-war leftism seriously).

And all some GOP idiots do is complain publicly and fret about imperial ambitions in mideast shitholes.

Will any be smart enough to grasp it?

[BobL]

I guess that I missed the vote that sent us into Syria in the first place. Anyone have a link?

Anyway, if people do a bit of research regarding our Kurdish allies, the PKK, they’ll find they’re Marxists...which then makes sense that the Deep State would be upset we pulled the rug from under them.

[fireman15]

Because it is always such a great idea to join with the Democrats when they are attacking our President... Republicans continue to be brilliant strategists when it comes to snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

[from occupied ga]

a move broadly seen as putting the lives of Kurdish allies at risk

As opposed to putting American lives at risk for something we have no stake in. The previous administration squandered American soldiers' lives like they were Kleenex in conflicts that were of no benefit to America.

[RideForever]

President Trump understands the Rules of Engagement with Muslims.

1) If infidels are present, Sunni and Shiite Muslims will unite to convert, enslave, or annihilate the infidels
2) if no infidels present, then Sunni and Shiite will turn against each other until annihilation

Are you an infidel?

[VanDeKoik]

These retards can hold a vote to order US troops there like they are supposed to.

Otherwise these d*ckless wonders are just expecting Trump to make the decision for them.

[billyboy15]

“Multiple committees are looking at possible legislative efforts to put the House on record against the president’s outrageous decision,...”

In other words they intend to pass a resolution saying “Orange man bad”....again.

Why doesn’t Congress simply revoke the War Powers Act which gives a president the full authority to do exactly what he is doing?

It’s a rhetorical question, we all know they’d rather whine then actually take action they would be countable for at some point down the road. They are a bunch of sanctimonious twats.

[dowcaet]

For over a hundred years every major world power has made one f**ked up decision after another in that region of the globe! We’re cleaning up the mess Europe created and which we made worse with our “brilliant” international policy “experts”! It is a problem that policy wonks will be dealing with two to three hundred years from now, and far beyond that!

[FreedomNotSafety]

“The President’s decision...”

VERSUS

“...The Congress shall have Power... To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;...” - United States Constitution.

[patriotspride]

So 50 soldiers is supposed to be a major pullout ?

This to me is as much about supporting military suppliers who are in the pockets of congress critters as it is about protecting...

[CIB-173RDABN]

Trump faces growing GOP revolt on Syria

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I no longer believe what is passed off as “news”. At best this is an opinion based on ... well who knows anymore.

However there are some that still believe especially if the press is reporting what they want to hear.

As a child I thought it was the cape that allowed superman to fly, and so one day I made a cape (well really an old towel) climbed up on the shed in our backyard and jumped.

A quick trip to the ER and a few stitches went a long way in teaching me the difference between reality and fantasy. Believing in a fantasy can hurt you.

Those that get their information from the media are living in a fantasy world. TDS is the direct result of some believing that Hillary could not lose the election and they have yet come to terms with that loss.

Believing that the GOP is in revolt over moving 50 troops out of Syria is a fantasy that will just cause more disappointment when the President is not removed from office until he loses the 2020 election or his term expires in 2025.

[rdcbn]

President Trump is doing the right thing here on many levels.

The Kurdish situation is very complex and there are many Kurdish factions that are communist and or terrorists backed by Iran

Here at home, the Presidents opposition is desperate to intervene in behalf of the Kurds which seems strange. Could it be that the Kurds know exactly what the Obama Administration was doing in its support of ISIS and why they were doing it. The Kurds are also capable of exposing that ISIS is just another name for al Qaeda, something that many in Washington would like keep quiet

Bottom line, the entire Obama Arab Spring was one of the dirtiest and most destructive acts of the Obama era and their support of ISIS is de facto providing aid and comfort to al Qaeda.

The Kurds are able to connect the dots on this

Intervening in military action by a fellow NATO member is serious business and American troops would inevitably come into conflict with those from Turkey. American troops engaged in acts of war with Turkey would be a huge problem

The American troops are in Syria as much to stabilize a very unstable situation and as a trip wire to deter Turkish military invasion of Syria. If the Turks invade and come into conflict with our troops we would be forced to intervene by circumstance beyond our control and on the terms of the opposition

This is critical to understand - America is in no position to engage Turkey in a serious military adventure on Turkey’s home court because we simply do not have the assets to do so in the region. To try would be a military disaster in the short term and by the time we mobilized Turkey would be dug in in Syria much the same way Saddam was in Kuwait in 1990.

President Trump has responded brilliantly and has not taken the bait offered by those who wish to American troops involved in another insane operation in the Middle East.

Instead he has kicked the stool out from under the status quo of a grinding and festering stalemate of constant low intensity conflict and is in a commanding position to put together and lead an international coalition to stabilize the situation and help rebuild the war devastated region and put it on a path to peace and recovery . None of which is going to happen in the current status quo

[nathanbedford]

In forming an opinion about the president withdrawing the troops from Syria, there are several reflexes which seem to give rise to opinions:

1. Cheeto Jesus can do no wrong.

2. Orange Man bad can do no right.

3. American involvement in foreign conflicts is per se wrong and must always be opposed.

4. America has a moral duty to be policeman of the world.

5. Whatever harms Israel should be supported.

6. Whatever helps Israel should be supported.

Judging from other threads, the majority here will choose reflex position 1 and cite a version of 2 in support.

I am not convinced either way but I will observe that the record seems clear that the president simply did not cultivate support within his own party and even among Democrats before announcing. Not necessarily the most prudent move when facing a probable impeachment and entirely unnecessary.

[jmaroneps37]

Is “Alexander” John Bolton’s real first name or his pen name?

[Flick Lives]

Tell Congress to put up or shut up. Vote a declaration of war on Turkey. That’s the responsibility of Congress. But, no. They have abdicated responsibility for most everything including passing budgets. The bastards all want power without accountability.

[mjp]

big problems get worse if you ignore them or run away from them

[Logical me]

Trump was wrong.