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Don't assume the Senate would *never* remove Donald Trump
CNN ^ | Oct. 1, 2019 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 10/01/2019 2:06:28 PM PDT by Innovative

With the House now headed down a path that virtually guarantees President Donald Trump will be impeached, conventional wisdom has settled on the idea that the Republican-led Senate will never, ever remove him from office.

Which, I get! If you were a betting person -- which I am not! -- the strong likelihood is that the Senate acquits Trump. Because, well, math. There are 53 Republicans in the chamber currently and 47 Democrats and independents who caucus with Democrats. In order to remove Trump from office, 67 senators would have to vote to do so -- meaning you would need every Democrat and a 20-person Republican revolt.

Which is not likely!

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KEYWORDS: cnn; democrats; impeachment; perfumedpricescave; rinocave; senate; trump
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To: Innovative

Oh CNN.

Well, if this somehow did occur, the response should be to nominate and elect Donald Trump, Jr.


81 posted on 10/01/2019 4:09:48 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: frank ballenger

LMAO!!!

82 posted on 10/01/2019 4:12:12 PM PDT by SanchoP
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To: Innovative
People, this is not a horse race. Impeachment and removal is a process.

Once the House finishes the job -- if it ever does -- of voting out the articles of impeachment (think of the parallel criminal process of a Grand Jury voting out an indictment), then the case for impeachment becomes plain for all to see. How it goes forward from there isn't clear to me yet, but at that point we are far from a Senate vote to remove the President from office.

Once we have a bill of particulars, the defense team gets to prepare rebuttals to each and every point. Some here have suggested that as part of that prep work there would be a discovery phase on the part of the defense: the House will already have done its discovery.

When we see the charges, and some (but not all) of the supporting material, we the people may be able to speculate how the Senate might vote, if and when they finish with a trial. One question is how Chief Justice Roberts will rule on evidence motions. It's possible that evidence ruled out of order could weaken or even demolish the House case.

Remember that in our criminal judicial system, the juries arrive at their verdicts based only on the evidence presented. Whether that will hold in a Senate trial remains to be seen. Would the public have input to their Senators, and if so what are the rules for said input?

There are lots of unknowns still.

83 posted on 10/01/2019 4:14:52 PM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: ronnie raygun

I agree with that.


84 posted on 10/01/2019 4:20:25 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: akalinin

Thank you! It’s an original!


85 posted on 10/01/2019 4:23:56 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Innovative

CNN’s premier Nazi propagandist shovels out a wagon full of BS, and look at the FR simpletons eating the crap up.

The senate will indict Trump...blah, blah, blah...

I would bet the senate would vote to remove Trump... blah, blah, blah....

Damn losers should be zotted.


86 posted on 10/01/2019 4:29:45 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Innovative

Lucky if the get one vote to impeach -plz


87 posted on 10/01/2019 4:31:50 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: Innovative
With the House now headed down a path that virtually guarantees President Donald Trump will be impeached

From the author's own article - don't assume anything. I don't think he will be impeached.

88 posted on 10/01/2019 4:34:25 PM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: Leaning Right

McConnell is up for re-elect in 2020 so is Lindsey, if Mcconell let this happen, he might as well resign and take Lindsey with him.


89 posted on 10/01/2019 4:40:16 PM PDT by magamomma
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To: Leaning Right

McConnell is up for re-elect in 2020 so is Lindsey, if Mcconell let this happen, he might as well resign and take Lindsey with him.


90 posted on 10/01/2019 4:42:12 PM PDT by magamomma
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To: Leaning Right

“Neither Andrew Johnson nor Bill Clinton did anything that threatened the structure of the Republic. So neither man should have been impeached in the first place, IMHO. (And yes, I know that Bill Clinton behaved like a pig, and then lied about it.)”

But threatening the structure of the country is not the criteria. It’s high crimes and misdemeanors. I consider the felony of perjury impeachable as a high crime. A felony is a high crime.

“On the other hand, Nixon was accused of things that really threatened the structure of the Republic. And he resigned because he knew he would have been impeached, and then convicted. GOP senator Hugh Scott told him as much.”

Yes, I hear that too. However, Nixon was way smarter than Clinton and had a far better defense ready. He didn’t commit a felony. He could have been gotten for ‘obstruction of justice’ but was less guilty than Clinton of that. I think his resignation was for the good of the country. Ford should have defeated Carter.

What did Nixon do that threatened the country?


91 posted on 10/01/2019 4:49:07 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It will end the USA, not just the republican party.


92 posted on 10/01/2019 5:06:00 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Nixon never would have resigned today. He was so screwed. Today he’d have a segment of the media that would tell the Dems to screw off.


93 posted on 10/01/2019 5:14:03 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Vince Ferrer

If Pres. Trump is convicted in the Senate, he may never hold any federal office again.


94 posted on 10/01/2019 5:15:33 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: Innovative

I don’t assume the Senate would not remove President Trump.

I actually think it’s rather likely that they will, or that they will come very close.


95 posted on 10/01/2019 5:16:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Innovative

I guarantee at least 10 million patriots will storm the Senate and no sane officer or military member will stand in their way.


96 posted on 10/01/2019 5:16:41 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: Innovative
Chris Cilliza is assuming that things wouldn't get REAL UGLY from annoyed Trump supporters.

I'm willing to stretch a few necks that need stretching.

97 posted on 10/01/2019 5:26:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Farmer Dean

They’d best look into rope-proof neck braces...


98 posted on 10/01/2019 5:27:59 PM PDT by kiryandil (The Media & the DNC tells you who you're gonna vote for. We CHOSE Trump.)
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To: Innovative

It might be in our favor if he gets impeached. The Senate won’t convict and the Democratic Senators are forced to cast an unpopular vote.


99 posted on 10/01/2019 5:32:35 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: erkelly
If Pres. Trump is convicted in the Senate, he may never hold any federal office again.

But he could start his own party and recruit candidates that agree with his platform. 94% of republicans are sticking with him, and he is the kind of leader people would follow into a new party. Look at the UKIP party in the UK. Mere weeks after it was formed it was the leading party in the UK.

100 posted on 10/01/2019 6:32:04 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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