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1 posted on 10/01/2019 8:22:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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“The C.I.A.’s growth was ‘likened to a malignancy’ which the ‘very high official was not sure even the White House could control … any longer.’ ‘If the United States ever experiences [a coup to overthrow the government] it will come from the C.I.A. and not the Pentagon.’ The agency ‘represents a tremendous power and total unaccountability to anyone.’”

https://jfkfacts.org/if-the-united-states-ever-experiences-an-attempt-at-a-coup-to-overthrow-the-government-it-will-come-from-the-cia/


2 posted on 10/01/2019 8:27:08 AM PDT by RummyChick ("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
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And if the requirement was secretly changed then who told the “whistleblower “ about it? How would he know he could suddenly report hearsay and gossip?


3 posted on 10/01/2019 8:28:17 AM PDT by shelterguy
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IC IG's official explanation as to why the form was changed:

https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/News/ICIG%20News/2019/September%2030%20-%20Statement%20on%20Processing%20of%20Whistleblower%20Complaints/ICIG%20Statement%20on%20Processing%20of%20Whistleblower%20Complaints.pdf

Here is a quick cut-and-paste of the above pdf:

Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community’s Statement on Processing of Whistleblower Complaints

(September 30, 2019) The Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community (ICIG) processes complaints or information with respect to alleged urgent concerns in accordance with the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) and the ICIG’s authorizing statute. With respect to the whistleblower complaint received by the ICIG on August 12, 2019, the ICIG processed and reviewed the complaint in accordance with the law.

The law required that the Complainant be “[a]n employee of an element of the intelligence community, an employee assigned or detailed to an element of the intelligence community, or an employee of a contractor to the intelligence community.” 50 U.S.C. § 3033(k)(5)(A). The ICIG confirmed the Complainant was such an employee, detailee, or contractor.

The law also required that the Complainant provide a complaint or information with respect to an “urgent concern,” which is defined, in relevant part, as: “A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of the law or Executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity within the responsibility and authority of the Director of National Intelligence involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinions concerning public policy matters.” Id. § 3033(k)(5)(G)(i). The Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant alleged information with respect to such an alleged urgent concern.

In addition, the law required the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community within 14 calendar days to determine whether information with respect to the urgent concern “appeared credible.” Id. § 3033(k)(5)(B). The Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined, after conducting a preliminary review, that there were reasonable grounds to believe the urgent concern appeared credible.

At the time the Complainant filed the Disclosure of Urgent Concern form with the ICIG on August 12, 2019, the ICIG followed its routine practice and provided the Complainant information, including “Background Information on ICWPA Process,” which included the following language:

In order to find an urgent concern “credible,” the IC IG must be in possession of reliable, first-hand information. The IC IG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee’s second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing. This includes information received from another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he/she witnessed some type of wrongdoing. (Anyone with first-hand knowledge of the allegations may file a disclosure in writing directly with the IC IG.) Similarly, speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA. If you think wrongdoing took place, but can provide nothing more than secondhand or unsubstantiated assertions, IC IG will not be able to process the complaint or information for submission as an ICWPA.

The Disclosure of Urgent Concern form the Complainant submitted on August 12, 2019 is the same form the ICIG has had in place since May 24, 2018, which went into effect before Inspector General Atkinson entered on duty as the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community on May 29, 2018, following his swearing in as the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community on May 17, 2018. Although the form requests information about whether the Complainant possesses first-hand knowledge about the matter about which he or she is lodging the complaint, there is no such requirement set forth in the statute. In fact, by law the Complainant – or any individual in the Intelligence Community who wants to report information with respect to an urgent concern to the congressional intelligence committees – need not possess first-hand information in order to file a complaint or information with respect to an urgent concern. The ICIG cannot add conditions to the filing of an urgent concern that do not exist in law. Since Inspector General Atkinson entered on duty as the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, the ICIG has not rejected the filing of an alleged urgent concern due to a whistleblower’s lack of first-hand knowledge of the allegations.

The Complainant on the form he or she submitted on August 12, 2019 in fact checked two relevant boxes: The first box stated that, “I have personal and/or direct knowledge of events or records involved”; and the second box stated that, “Other employees have told me about events or records involved.”

As part of his determination that the urgent concern appeared credible, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that the Complainant had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct, and that the Complainant has subject matter expertise related to much of the material information provided in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix. In short, the ICIG did not find that the Complainant could “provide nothing more than second-hand or unsubstantiated assertions,” which would have made it much harder, and significantly less likely, for the Inspector General to determine in a 14-calendar day review period that the complaint “appeared credible,” as required by statute. Therefore, although the Complainant’s Letter acknowledged that the Complainant was not a direct witness to the President’s July 25, 2019, telephone call with the Ukrainian President, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community determined that other information obtained during the ICIG’s preliminary review supported the Complainant’s allegations. The Complainant followed the law in filing the urgent concern complaint, and the ICIG followed the law in transmitting the information to the Acting Director of National Intelligence on August 26, 2019.

In 2018, the ICIG formed a new Center for Protected Disclosures, which has as one of its primary functions to process complaints from whistleblowers under the ICWPA. In early 2019, the ICIG hired a new Hotline Program Manager as part of the Center for Protected Disclosures to oversee the ICIG’s Hotline. In June 2019, the newly hired Director for the Center for Protected Disclosures entered on duty. Thus, the Center for Protected Disclosures has been reviewing the forms provided to whistleblowers who wish to report information with respect to an urgent concern to the congressional intelligence committees. In the process of reviewing and clarifying those forms, and in response to recent press inquiries regarding the instant whistleblower complaint, the ICIG understood that certain language in those forms and, more specifically, the informational materials accompanying the forms, could be read – incorrectly – as suggesting that whistleblowers must possess first-hand information in order to file an urgent concern complaint with the congressional intelligence committees.

The ICIG’s Center for Protected Disclosures has developed three new forms entitled, “Report of Fraud, Waste, and Abuse UNCLASSIFIED Intake Form”; “Disclosure of Urgent Concern Form-UNCLASSIFIED”; and “External Review Panel (ERP) Request Form – UNCLASSIFIED.” These three new forms are now available on the ICIG’s open website and are in the process of being added to the ICIG’s classified system. The ICIG will continue to update and clarify its forms and its websites to ensure its guidance to whistleblowers is clear and strictly complies with statutory requirements. Consistent with the law, the new forms do not require whistleblowers to possess first-hand information in order to file a complaint or information with respect to an urgent concern

In summary, regarding the instant matter, the whistleblower submitted the appropriate Disclosure of Urgent Concern form that was in effect as of August 12, 2019, and had been used by the ICIG since May 24, 2018. The whistleblower stated on the form that he or she possessed both first-hand and other information. The ICIG reviewed the information provided as well as other information gathered and determined that the complaint was both urgent and that it appeared credible. From the moment the ICIG received the whistleblower’s filing, the ICIG has worked to effectuate Congress’s intent, and the whistleblower’s intent, within the rule of law. The ICIG will continue in those efforts on behalf of all whistleblowers in the Intelligence Community.

4 posted on 10/01/2019 8:42:30 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Time to disband the CIA. They have always been a criminal enterprise.


6 posted on 10/01/2019 8:50:21 AM PDT by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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There need to be some perp walks and imprisonment of all these deep state rats.

Justice Delayed is just business as usual as long as the DoJ stumbles along in a drunken stupor.


8 posted on 10/01/2019 9:10:07 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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What does the text of the law in question provide [5 U.S.C. § 2302(a)(2)(C).]? Sect (C) seems to exempt CIA agents from the whistleblower law. This appears to be yet another wet-dream of the Socialist Democrats bent on destroying America to usher in the globalist fascists.


9 posted on 10/01/2019 9:12:39 AM PDT by RideForever
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The real issue is how the professionally written whistle-blower complaint came to rely on hearsay when it was filed only a few days after the rule change allowing hearsay. That makes it pretty clear that the whistle-blower and the people who helped him write the complaint knew well in advance that the rule change was coming.

So the whistle-blower should be questioned under oath as to the identities of whoever helped him write the complaint, and to produce all the drafts of it. And anyone he fingers should then be called in to testify likewise. Plus all of them should be questioned in detail as to precisely how they knew that hearsay would be allowed.

10 posted on 10/01/2019 10:06:05 AM PDT by Thud
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Complete abuse of power.

Mark Levin was right...

IT’S TIME TO CALL, EMAIL, AND FAX ALL REPUBLICAN US SENATORS AND DEMAND THAT REPUBLICAN CHAIRMEN IN THE SENATE ISSUE 100 SUBPOENAS.

GO AFTER THEIR THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS.
GO AFTER THEIR FRIENDS.
GO AFTER THEIR RELATIVES.
GO AFTER THEIR ACCOUNTANTS.
GO AFTER THEIR RECORDS.
AND IF THEY DON’T GO FOR IT, HOLD THEM IN CONTEMPT.

From Mark Levin
“And finally, where the hell are the Republican chairman in the Senate? Why aren’t they issuing subpoenas? Why don’t they pretend they’re Elijah Cummings or Jerry Nadler? Or Schiff for that matter? I know it’s an ugly thought, but issue 100 subpoenas. Go after their bank accounts, go after their friends, go after their relatives. Go after their accountants. Go after their records. And if they don’t go for it, hold them in contempt.”

TIME TO STOP PLAYING DEFENSIVE ALL THE TIME AND GO ON THE OFFENSIVE!!!


12 posted on 10/01/2019 10:20:02 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3782815/posts

Intelligence watchdog now says whistleblower claimed ‘first-hand’ knowledge, in departure...

FoxNews ^ | October 1, 2019 | Gregg Re, Catherine Herridge

14 posted on 10/01/2019 10:41:00 AM PDT by maggief
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ICIG gets evidence that somebody leaked executive privileged material out of the super secret safe, and he is FINE with that leak.

Tells all you need to know about the veracity, integrity, ethics of ICIG Atkinson. That the GOP in Congress is not having a cow over executive privilege material being converted to exalted whistleblower status tells me all I need to know about the GOP/Congress.

This is all crap theater at public expense and damaged national security. I can't wait for Trump to get out the long knives.

15 posted on 10/01/2019 10:47:57 AM PDT by Cboldt
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More blah, blah, blah and nothing more! No wonder the Kids hate US! They see this shit and deem US no better than any other socialist communist country where laws are meaningless and no one is held to account.
I mean how would you feel if you hear each and every day one side saying the other is totally corrupt and should be impeached and the other side say’s no it’s you trying for a soft coup yet offers no real evidence of it (meaning arrests and consequences). Meaning even if the impeachment is a fraud they are at least showing evidence of their convictions (even if it’s a total fraud).


17 posted on 10/01/2019 12:18:30 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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You cannot expect criminals to abide by laws, when you also give criminals the ability to write the laws.


19 posted on 10/01/2019 1:15:59 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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