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Even the illegals are fleeing California -- and half the state's voters want out, too
American Thinker ^ | 09/28/2019 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 09/28/2019 7:14:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

California, whose new leftist governor, Gavin Newsom, has big ambitions to be the counter-president for now, and eventually replace President Trump, has this one little problem that always comes of socialist rule:

The locals are fleeing. 

And now it turns out half the ones who haven't fled are thinking about it.

Just over half of California’s registered vote have considered leaving the state, with soaring housing costs cited as the most common reason for wanting to move, according to a new poll.

Young voters were especially likely to cite unaffordable housing as a reason for leaving, according to the latest latest UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll conducted for the Los Angeles Times. But a different group, conservatives, also frequently suggested they wanted to leave — and for a very different reason: They feel alienated from the state’s political culture.

That just-over-half figure cited by the Los Angeles Times is actually 54%, broken down by 40% Republican and 14% Democrat voters. They want out and are dreaming of new lives in states where jobs are forming and housing isn't just for billionaires. Walk around any place in California and recognize that half the people you meet are people who want the hell out.

But it's not just registered voters. Despite that vast banquet of goodies California has offered to migrants with zero regard to immigration status -- sanctuary protection, drivers' licenses, automatic voter registration, ballot-harvesting privileges, free education well beyond K-12, a vast NGO/church network set up with state funds to 'serve' illegals, free housing, free health care for the pregnant, no need to learn English, and coming soon, free health care for illegals up to the age of 26, --even the migrants, both legal and illegal ... are fleeing.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; exodus; illegals; voters
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To: SeekAndFind

NOOOOOO! Stay put.
It’s metastasizing. Take their kooky politics to other States and ruining them.


21 posted on 09/28/2019 9:57:12 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: SeekAndFind

Different FReepers may have different circumstances but I personally am going to stay and fight. I’ve lived in California my whole life, darned if I’m going to let some Bay Area moonbats chase me out of my own home. It just feels like cowardice for a healthy young person like me to flee when my Boomer parents are riding it out. Again, different FReepers have different circumstances so I’m not judging those who choose to leave.

We tell the Central Americans to stay and fix their own countries. I don’t see how this is any different. I intend to change California from within or, if I cannot succeed at doing that, to go down with the ship bravely.


22 posted on 09/28/2019 10:03:20 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course the illegals are leaving California...The California Gov. leaders know they can’t afford to live there, it’s just a transit state so they move on to other sanctuary and welfare city states.

If you look at the Catholic charities and groups assisting the illegals they never send the illegals to California from other states they enter.


23 posted on 09/28/2019 10:31:00 AM PDT by caww
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To: FormerFRLurker
It just feels like cowardice for a healthy young person like me to flee when my Boomer parents are riding it out

It is a little easier to ride it out if one's property taxes have been capped. I've spent some time in the costal LA area recently. Crap shacks with a decent view of the ocean go for $1.5M+. Those houses wouldn't go for much more than $150K in central Illinois. If they have a decent view of something, you might get another $100K in valuation. In California there are highly different property taxes for similar houses in the same neighborhood. Long term owners have considerably less tax bills. The property tax bills for the neighborhood I stayed in had tax bills ranging from $2K to $20K+

24 posted on 09/28/2019 11:07:02 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: SeekAndFind

Stay home and get your state back to it’s former glory by telling the leftist Demonrats to go to hell and quit voting for them!!!


25 posted on 09/28/2019 11:07:43 AM PDT by Dawgreg
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To: BunnySlippers

“All the people who moved here from some other states... and countries.”

You have been overrun and they’re bringing in more everyday.


26 posted on 09/28/2019 11:49:48 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank (blame) “Ronaldus Magnus”:

He willingly created the de facto institution of Amnesty, forever setting the precedent for UniParty surrender on border control, and so abandoned his adopted state of California - which gave him two terms as Governor, and two terms as President - to communist one-party rule; he also betrayed every legal immigrant, past and present.

In a temporal (not eternal) sense, I will never forgive him for that - and, yes, I was utterly dismayed at the time (1986).


27 posted on 09/28/2019 4:03:08 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: FormerFRLurker

There are many people who live in two states throughout the year. They live in one state in the summer and another state in the winter. Many northerners go south to Florida in the winter.

What if Californians lived part of the year in California and part of the year some place else? Or a friend or relative could move to California during the winter renting out the Californian’s house?


28 posted on 09/28/2019 4:32:05 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: Vinnie

They are letting their cities become cess pools and yet they will not vote some new people in like Republicans. They are just too arrogant to admit they are wrong. They have a superiority complex so when things get absolutely unbearable they leave but they never admit they are wrong and they just continue their voting habits in the new places they move too.


29 posted on 09/28/2019 4:40:51 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: FormerFRLurker

Do you give your neighbors a zinger when you have a chance?


30 posted on 09/28/2019 4:42:56 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
...they are fleeing to Arizona and Texas where they will Californicate those states.

I just love it when non-Californians paint every Cali refugee with the same broad brush.

The fact is, most of those fleeing big blue states tend to be conservative in their lifestyles and politics, and would make great neighbors.

31 posted on 09/28/2019 6:18:44 PM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I've got conservative family in California. Could it be their reverse mortgage is the reason they're staying?

(I told them reverse mortgages were not for them, and don't want to ask directly).

32 posted on 09/29/2019 7:36:39 AM PDT by Does so (Cannabis should be taxed to provide free cannabis to the Taliban.)
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