[kingu]

I still have to admit, the utter folly of this high speed rail project still has the possibility of actually being useful. A line from Roseville to Sacramento to Davis to Vallejo to Oakland to San Francisco would mean that the billions a year in taxpayer subsidies wouldn't be as much of a waste. That line would probably only require $25 in subsidies per rider vs the $125 the Bakersfield to SF route would require.

Though truthfully, now all this is becoming is an expansion of Bay Area Transit at the expense of all of California. The San Jose to SF high speed train is really the ultimate goal.

[cgbg]

These days big money will be stolen at every stage of the process.

Democratic run states are always kleptocracies.

The costs will keep going up and up and up.....

[ctdonath2]

Indeed, it could actually get done on time and under budget, and make a profit - were it run by people interested in completion.

Seems that’s one of Elon Musk’s goals with Boring Co.: by going underground, all zoning nonsense is bypassed. Were he to just get his machines started on a long straight path at least a line could get there and something done therewith.

[DUMBGRUNT]

I still have to admit, the utter folly of this high speed rail project still has the possibility of actually being useful.

YES!
The bridge in the photo could be tarped in for deluxe living quarts for illegals with rooftop parking for cars, RVs.. the river for recreation and sanitary needs(downstream)...

Once established, day labor recruiters would seek workers, taco benders to prepare delights from home, bail bondsman for the slow runners, a welfare office to hand out checks, tire repair services... Soon a fully functioning community.

Just needing a small bit of government funding to get it rolling.