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Saudi Oil Attack is the Big One
Wall Street Journal ^ | 9/15/19 | Spencer Jakab

Posted on 09/15/2019 8:22:42 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods

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To: Drango
>>>I think the oil stock markets open tonight 6pm EST

IT does. I trade oil futures (among other things). It will be interesting to watch the price movement when the market opens.

All I know is if you haven't filled up - you better do it now.

I have already read a post on one of the pages I follow (stock pages) of a guy who was holding Oil futures SHORT over the weekend. He's TOAST seeing how he will be down INSTANTLY about 10 grand.

61 posted on 09/15/2019 10:05:14 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog s<how. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: TexasGator

“Do I really have to quote it for you?”

Yes, and present us with the math while you’re at it.


62 posted on 09/15/2019 10:09:03 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“Since the efficiency of refinement rarely exceeds 80% (leaving tar/asphalt the actual crude consumed is likely higher than 20.5 million bbl per day.”

FROM YOUR LINK! (you have it backwards)

refinery processing gain—1.14 mmb/d

Processing gain: The volumetric amount by which total output is greater than input for a given period of time. This difference is due to the processing of crude oil into products which, in total, have a lower specific gravity than the crude oil processed.


63 posted on 09/15/2019 10:09:13 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: CondorFlight
Yes, we don't import oil. But we export already refined ready-to-use fuel to all over the world, specially aviation fuel.
64 posted on 09/15/2019 10:09:38 AM PDT by wannabegeek
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To: TexasGator

Cracking leads to greater volume? Sounds right.


65 posted on 09/15/2019 10:11:57 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SaxxonWoods
"Next time you are in a store, look at all the plastic (oil) used to package everything. Clothing, shoes, cell phones, computers, packaging, sports equipment, paint, literally thousands of items are made from oil that have nothing to do with fuel and the price of most everything goes up when oil prices go up."

Malarkey. None of those things is made from oil. The feedstock of choice for those products is natural gas, the price of which is dropping. I worked for a big chunk of my career for one of the the biggest petrochemical companies in the US, and every product that went into a rail car, from chlorine, to caustic, to ethylene oxide, to ethylene glycol, to polyethylene and on and on was made from natgas.

66 posted on 09/15/2019 10:19:41 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: McGruff
The WSJ needs to decide which it is.

Agreed. I worked in both Abqaiq and Khurais decades ago. There are multiple gas oil separation plants (GOSPS) in each field. The facts are missing in the reporting. These were not refineries.

Things may have changed, however Aramco is truly amazing when it comes to their materials systems and storage of hardware. All their systems are standardized. They can mobilization quickly for repairs and also bypass the existing GOSPS.

It has been a long time since I was there. Nevertheless, the facts are missing in all the stories.
67 posted on 09/15/2019 10:19:47 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Mariner
We have Federal judges here in the U.S. who regularly issue injunctions to shut down pipeline projects right here in North America.

Waging war halfway around the world over "oil prices" while we allow that sh!t to go on right here in the U.S. is an outrageous display of hypocrisy.

A country that does this sort of thing deserves everything it gets.

And this idea that millions of people would die over a minor oil disruption is silly.

68 posted on 09/15/2019 10:22:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Mariner

“Yes, and present us with the math while you’re at it.”

From your favorite website you can see that our net petroleum balance is -2.34 bbls/day.

How much petroleum does the United States import and export?
In 2018, the United States imported about 9.93 million barrels per day (MMb/d) of petroleum from about 86 countries. Petroleum includes crude oil, hydrocarbon gas liquids, refined petroleum products such as gasoline and diesel fuel, and biofuels including ethanol and biodiesel. Crude oil accounted for about 78% of U.S. gross petroleum imports in 2018, and non-crude oil petroleum accounted for about 22% of gross petroleum imports.
In 2018, the United States exported about 7.59 MMb/d of petroleum to 190 countries and 4 U.S. territories, of which about 26% was crude oil and 74% was non-crude oil petroleum. The resulting net imports (imports minus exports) of petroleum were about 2.34 MMb/d.
The top five source countries of U.S. petroleum imports in 2018 were Canada, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela, and Iraq.

Top sources and amounts of U.S. petroleum imports (percent share of total), respective exports, and net imports, 2018
million barrels per day
Import sources
Gross imports
Exports
Net imports
Total, all countries
9.93
7.59
2.34


69 posted on 09/15/2019 10:31:27 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Alberta's Child

Most every other country is flowing at maximum capacity.


70 posted on 09/15/2019 10:34:00 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: CondorFlight

We still import oil. Mostly from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, and Russia.


71 posted on 09/15/2019 10:34:48 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Cheesehead in Texas

BY FAR the net deficit in US oil production/oil consumption is made up by North American producers.

But the Saudis make up about 11% of world production. Take that off the air and world prices will go to $200/bbl.

The rest of the Arab Gulf States make up another 9%, even without Iran who makes up (in peak times) about 2.5%.

If the Gulf shuts down, the deficit will be 20-25% of the world’s supply.


72 posted on 09/15/2019 10:44:12 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Keep in mind that oil is an international market. The price of oil goes up it will go up for us as well as everyone else.

I agree.

The US Govt. and us taxpayers aren't in the oil business. Oil is owned by worldwide private companies many of which have no American connections except getting their gas and oil supplies from the geographical USA.
They will set the price. -Tom

73 posted on 09/15/2019 10:44:30 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Mariner

“Would you care to cite contrary data?”

From your favorite source.

https://www.worldoil.com/news/2019/7/31/eia-us-crude-oil-production-continues-to-set-records


74 posted on 09/15/2019 10:46:29 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Tallguy

Well, we just don’t know.

It seems the Houthi’s are involved becquse they confessed to the attack by their drones. Some including our secretary of state who likely knows exactly what hppened seem to believe otherwise.

But regardless of what actually happened, the Houthi confession is prima fascia evidence of involvement


75 posted on 09/15/2019 10:50:39 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: TexasGator

.28 x 7.59 = 1.9+ mil bbl
.78 x 9.93 = ~7.75 mil bbl

For only a net CRUDE deficit of ~5.5mil bbl/day. Very close to the production taken off line yesterday.


76 posted on 09/15/2019 10:53:29 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Or they could be false flag attacks to keep the price up...and shale production profitable.

That keeps the economy ticking. It also covers for cost increases to China—and that drives their economy deeper into the crap.

I have a dark mind.


77 posted on 09/15/2019 11:02:26 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: CondorFlight

Not true. We still import almost 10 million barrels per day.
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6


78 posted on 09/15/2019 11:05:36 AM PDT by Fungi
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To: G Larry

“Watch Monday’s oil market prices.
It’s the only opinion that counts.”

Ding ding ding... We have a winner.

But look on Tuesday and Wednesday too...


79 posted on 09/15/2019 11:07:15 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: Mariner

“.28 x 7.59 = 1.9+ mil bbl”

Your favorite EIA website shows us exporting 3.5 mill bbl/day.


80 posted on 09/15/2019 11:07:16 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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