Posted on 09/07/2019 5:00:16 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
The US is scrapping a ban on energy-inefficient light bulbs which was due to come in at the beginning of 2020. The rule would have prohibited the sale of bulbs that do not reach a standard of efficiency, and could have seen an end to incandescent bulbs. Many countries have phased out older bulbs because they waste energy. But the US energy department said banning incandescent bulbs would be bad for consumers because of the higher cost of more efficient bulbs. The Department of Energy said it had withdrawn the ban because it was a misinterpretation of the 2007 Energy Independence and Security Act. Specifically, the law stipulated that restrictions on bulbs could only be implemented when it was economically justified , Shaylyn Hynes, a spokeswoman for the Department of Energy, told the New York Times. Activists say the government has come under pressure from manufacturers. " It makes zero sense to eliminate energy-saving light bulb standards that will save households money on electricity bills and cut climate change emissions," Appliance Standards Awareness Project executive director Andrew deLaski told the Washington Post. "Instead, the Trump administration is siding with manufacturers that want to keep selling outdated, energy-wasting light bulbs."
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
“Maybe they’ve gotten better in the last year or two, or maybe I shouldn’t have skimped on the cheap store brand “
A few years ago there was a lot of cheap junk out there to suck peopLe in with low prices. Prices are now much lower.
The bulbs I buy are from Costco/Lowes/HD. Selection is also much better. Make sure you get the ‘color’ you want. Look for displays of different lights. Don’t go strictly by the words. Look at the ‘k’ values.
Not sure why you are laughing.
The issue isn’t that they do or don’t use lighting (and I am not sure why you made that a point) the issue is that this was forced on private citizens by the government for an absolute minuscule amount of electricity savings.
The second issue “who uses CFL’s” is that when this was forced on all of us, the only option was the crappy CFL lights. NOBODY I know now knowingly uses CFL lights, but back then, LED lights were not a viable option.
Do you disagree?
Thanks for the info. I’m more interested in lumens and longevity than color, but I get your point.
I’ve toyed with checking out Costco, but there’s just me here and I’m not sure I can justify the annual fee. I already have everything I need and almost every material thing I want.
If you read my post (as some other persons on this thread may not have to the end-which I understand since it is a long post) you will see my caveat that I both like and use LED lighting. I think it is a great replacement for incandescent lights.
That said, the analysis was done back in 2010 when this crap was hoisted on us, and was posted today as a retrospective look at the state of things back then, and as an illustrative example of the mental midget thinking of people who want to impose restrictions far, FAR worse, damaging, and financially unsound on us today to combat “global warming”.
As for the drawback you mentioned about screw-in LED, I have not run into that one yet. I am quite satisfied with them.
For me, it was the cost, the longevity, and yes...the color. I hated the spectrum of the CFL lights, and the first LED lights were way too white for me.
They have LED lights working well now in all three areas.
“I’m more interested in lumens and longevity than color, “
Color is very important. 6500k is too ‘blue’. 2500k is too red.
They are all ‘white’ but too blue seems sterile but some people like a ‘red’ tone particularly at night or for background lighting.
Lowes and HD have a much better selection.
If you have a friend with a membership, they can purchase a gift card for you or you can go as a guest.
And by the way, the graph from Livermore Labs does not break down the flow of electricity into either private houses or industry by use.
But industry sources (taken from several different sources which largely agreed with each other) state that lighting accounts for 12% of the total residential electricity use from ALL sources (which the graph DOES state is 4.65% of the entire total energy usage in this country.
My analysis discounts individual solar and wind power generation in residences because it is completely insignificant in residential use as well as pumped into the electrical grid. 99.9% of energy used in houses comes from the electrical grids generated by Nuclear, Gas, Oil, etc.
“Lowes and HD have a much better selection.”
I have a friend who is a member of Costco but I’d rather just go to Lowe’s or Home Depot. Besides, I don’t think I’ll be needing any for a while.
Color does make a difference, I understand, and the next time I buy LED bulbs I will take color under consideration.
I really like my LED floor lamp. It has three different color settings and five different brightness settings with touch controls to boot. Thinking about getting another one for my bedroom:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F8TXY3J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_bia_widget_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
*bump*
Well, since they’ve successfully destroyed the domestic manufacture of standard light bulbs, this won’t help all that much. It’s too late.
The secret for them to last ten years is to never turn them off. I have one in my attic that I haven't turned off in 5 years...now, how is that saving me on my electric bill? I don't know.
Do you have a link for this?
As a humorous aside, many cities in the north that bought into the LED traffic light garbage were forced to install heaters in the casing because they were icing up during the winter so badly that you couldn't see the lights. Net energy savings from incandescent bulbs: 0, or close enough to make no difference. I didn't see info specifically about whether or not they turn off the heaters during the summer, but kind of doubt it.
Go to Amazon and do a search on Bubble Bandit. Don’t be put off by the price. Four bags of it last me a year.
my investment of 100 watt bulbs just crashed!
So...was the heat generated from the incandescent bulbs keeping it from icing up? Never heard of that.
Exactly. The LEDs burned too cool, so ice accumulated.
ABC News (apparently doing some accidental journalism)
Thanks! I know some folks that just buy a box of TSP, and add it to whatever detergent they use normally. Was thinking of trying that, but this might be better.
You must be using the outdated fossil fuel generated electricity, which causes havoc on the newer wonderful bulbs.
You must use only clean electricity, generated by winds, solar panels and such, hence more pure, to prevent the newer bulbs from premature failure.
“So...was the heat generated from the incandescent bulbs keeping it from icing up? Never heard of that.”
Sprayers. are installed on cars with LED headlights to melt the ice.
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